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December 28, 2011 4:42 pm at 4:42 pm #601351mamashtakahMember
A chareidi man was interviewed on the radio this morning. He claimed that there are shules where the women leave davening 10 minutes before it ends so they don’t mix with the men. I personally have never heard of such a thing, but I remarked to the other guy in the car that perhaps there were some chareidi groups that really do this.
Does anyone know if there are actually shules or communities that practice something like this? I’m asking out of curiosity, no other reason.December 28, 2011 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #839384smartcookieMember
Yes, in my shul (chassidish), the women are asked to leave a few minutes before davening is over.
Being that it’s a big shul, and so many men and woman pile out at once, they try to keep it separate.
This isn’t a rule, this isn’t even enforced. It’s just something they kindly requested.
Nobody will spit on a woman who will walk out at the same time as the gentlemen.December 28, 2011 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #839385JotharMember
I have heard of this as well.December 28, 2011 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #839386YatzmichMember
What’s the big deal, that you ask about it. So they do it, what exactly do you want to hear by starting this thread.
Here’s another interesting thread: I heard that my neighbor, when making potato soup, puts the celery in BEFORE the potatoes. Does anyone know if there are actually other people or communities that practice something like this? I’m asking out of curiosity, no other reason.December 28, 2011 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #839387apushatayidParticipant
Perhaps they leave 10 minutes early to get the seudah ready?December 28, 2011 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #839388Sam2Participant
There is a sign up in one of the Chassidish main shuls in Me’ah She’arim (I believe Vishnitz but I’m not positive) asking that the women leave before Kedushas Keser on Shabbos so that they don’t mix with the men when leaving.December 28, 2011 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm #839389BowwowParticipant
If they didn’t want to treat women like second class citizens they should try something different. How about this: Let the women stay in shul until the conclusion of davening and then the men should wait in shul and learn for 10 minutes while the women have a chance to leave.December 28, 2011 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #839390bptParticipant
This is a time honored minhag in our shul, but it is done so that the ladies can get a jump start on the ayyer mit z’tvibl.December 28, 2011 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #839391midwesternerParticipant
The place I daven on Shabbos (a Litvishe yeshiva gedola, ultra chareidi) has separate entrances on separate streets for men and women. (The building is on a corner) No one has asked anyone to do anything. But the teenage girls will frequently walk out and head home after mussaf, to avoid mingling on the corner. They probably wouldn’t be saying very much of the Pitum Haketores anyway, and that’s more than enough time to get a couple of blocks ahead of the mass exodus. This is totally on their own. No one asks them to do anything of the sort. The married women do not leave early, unless they choose to do so to get a head start on the seuda.December 28, 2011 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm #839392feivelParticipant
This is totally on their own. No one asks them to do anything of the sort.
thats because the place you daven is led by true Gedolim who are held in great respect and awe by those that daven there. the atmosphere of Toras EMES even permeates to the street.December 28, 2011 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm #839394popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Here’s another interesting thread: I heard that my neighbor, when making potato soup, puts the celery in BEFORE the potatoes. Does anyone know if there are actually other people or communities that practice something like this? I’m asking out of curiosity, no other reason.
+1December 28, 2011 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #839395midwesternerParticipant
So who is 80? Now I’d love to know!!December 29, 2011 12:34 am at 12:34 am #839396essy8Member
in Yichave Da’at, R’ Ovadia Yosef’s shul in har nof, they also ask that the women leave right during ketores, and the men linger after alainu with announcements and singing adon olam. not enforced, but i think there are signs asking very nicely.December 29, 2011 1:51 am at 1:51 am #839397moi aussiMember
I’ve heard of a different minhag. In some places women don’t go to shul at all, they stay home with their little noisy kids. They go out especially to pick up their husbands from shul after davening.
(maybe this comment belongs with the celery in the potato soup lol)December 29, 2011 3:35 am at 3:35 am #839398WIYMember
“They go out especially to pick up their husbands from shul after davening.”
Because men really need their wives to “pick them up after Davening?!”
If they didnt go to shul to Daven whats the point of going after Davening? Abi to congregate on the street in front of the shul?December 29, 2011 10:59 am at 10:59 am #839399moi aussiMember
They enjoy the walk home together, it’s a family promenade.December 29, 2011 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #839400HaLeiViParticipant
Bowwow, that’s the way it’s done in my Shul.
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