March 20, 2012 12:40 am at 12:40 am #602576gefenParticipant
Got this in an email. Thought I’d share it.
SOMETHING RELATIVELY EASY FOR US TO WORK ON TO BRING MASHIACH
Rebbetizin Wolbe mentioned that it is a mitzva to publicize this dream!March 20, 2012 12:49 am at 12:49 am #864973147Participant
I consulted Moreinu hoRab Shlomo Wolbe ZTKLLH’H several times during the years I was in Eretz Yisroel.
Because I speak Ivrit, I was able to converse with the Rov directly, without breaking my teeth on Yiddish, or requiring someone else to be a Meturgemon.
I got very smart advice from him, and passage of time showed his advice to be right on the mark.
Moreinu hoRab Shlomo Wolbe ZTKLLH’H is sorely missed.March 20, 2012 12:59 am at 12:59 am #864974moreMember
the story is very inspiring and uplifting. However there’s no way to prove that it’s actually true. Although it is true that Moshiach can come at any moment… and one should be just as excited for it without dreams like this sort.March 20, 2012 3:41 am at 3:41 am #864975☕️coffee addictParticipant
you mean like
The search team for Leiby
MisaskimMarch 20, 2012 4:03 am at 4:03 am #864976RABBAIMParticipant
Any organization which would allow others to do the same thing they are doing and be happy that Ratzon Hashem is being done by many helps b rng Mashiahc closer.
unfortunately that looks like a dream……….March 20, 2012 4:03 am at 4:03 am #864977isaac1554Member
What about Yad Ephraim
or the many other wonderful organization or even just thounsands of people that help others Like Shlomie Gross z’LMarch 20, 2012 5:52 am at 5:52 am #864978moreMember
watch the video cry no more. it’s going around on facebook. very inspirational. i would post the link but I don’t think the mod will allow it to go through…March 20, 2012 11:03 am at 11:03 am #864979
I just saw this on a wall in a sem….March 20, 2012 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #864980BTGuyParticipant
Thank you very much for posting that.
We can never hear it enough, and in other cases it is difficult to do so, but reading what you wrote renewed my enthusiasm to approach people with thought and care. Thank you…March 20, 2012 2:22 pm at 2:22 pm #864981gefenParticipant
Thanky YOU for your kind words. I wasn’t sure how this thread would be received. As “more” wrote – “However there’s no way to prove that it’s actually true” – and that’s right but I still found it inspiring and an important message to all of us.March 21, 2012 3:06 am at 3:06 am #864982Bar ShattyaMember
Can we bring moshiach?!?!?!
Why would we want to? You dont like fighting your yetzer hara? I think some people need a change of additude about life.March 21, 2012 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm #864983HaLeiViParticipant
Bar Shatya, if you absolutely know that you will come out unscathed then you can ask for a Nesayon. Otherwise, although it is better for you to overcome your Yetzer Hara you don’t ask for it.
Another point, what you mention is a very selfish view. The big picture, of Kvod Shamayim only stands to gain when Moshiach comes. That is what we are hoping for. Safa Echad Lechal Ha’amim. Tzadikim have cried through the generations because of Shchinta Bigalusa. How can you suggest to leave it this way, even if you have a chance of gaining something.
Although you get credit for overcoming your Yetzer, that doesn’t compare to actual heights attainable when Vehaya Hashem Limelech Al Kol Ha’aretz. Wouldn’t you rather learn in Kollel than be praised for finding some extra time to learn?
And finally, there is a Mitzva to be Metzape Liyeshua, and they ask about it.March 22, 2012 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #864984LogicianParticipant
Our personal chesed is sorely lacking the enthusiasm our communal chesed gets. Going out of your way to help one particular individual doesn’t at all give you the feeling that the above-mentioned organizations do, and so it clashes harder with our middos. As the language used in the OP concerns an inner dimension (very apropos of the Mashgiach Z”L), I would think in that direction.March 29, 2012 5:19 am at 5:19 am #864985Bar ShattyaMember
you quoted alot of hebrew stuff, but my point is thus-
I think that people dont like life so much and they want it all to end. Noe i’m not quite talking about someone suicidal, rather just regular people who have hard nisyonos and dont like them. its no big deal, but i still dont think its healthyApril 2, 2012 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #864986
I have alot to say on this matter- please respond if this is a topic you would like to discuss, because I have done alot of in depth study on this. Before I start, please clarify ” rather just regular people who have hard nisyonos and dont like them. its no big deal, but i still dont think its healthy”If the people do not like the nisyonos than why do they not want Moshiach to come?April 2, 2012 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #864987
If this does not interest you, or whet your curiosity please do not respond. I just do not want people to think there is no answer to this. This a hashkafic issue, that a Jew has to understand.April 2, 2012 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #864988AhavasChinamParticipant
Bar Shattya – tell it the Chai Lifeline kid in the hospital. I guess your selfish views of your own fighting yetzer hora life makes it ok not to daven for Moshiach considering that in Shemoneh Esre the gedolim greater than you seem to believe it crucial to daven for Moshiach with most of the tefilah asking for him to come more than 3 times a day if you bentch. Youre entire idea of Moshiach is warped. I suggest u learn what its about. Youll find out its not about YOU.April 2, 2012 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #864989BaalHaboozeParticipant
very inspiring! thank you gefen for sharing.April 2, 2012 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #864990twistedParticipant
There are two peshatim in shas on when and how the mashiach comes. The first is that it can only be on leil pesach, that the leil shimurim is the permanent date for all geula. The other opinon is that the geulah can come at any time. A further development * of this explains that the world being rov zakai is cause for immediate arrival of moshiach, but this balance is delicate, one aveira can tip it the other way, and the condition of rov zakai may not be achieved again for perhaps hundreds or thousands of years. Something to think about when a mitzvah presents.
*hagada shehl pesach Bais Haleivi 119
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