March 7, 2022 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm #2066892
The “cold” conflict between an increasingly West-leaning Ukraine and an increasingly authoritarian Russia erupted almost two weeks ago into a Russian invasion and shooting war, and I feel like the media has provided no specific context for this conflict other than “Putin evil.” While that certainly seems to be the case, even evil has motivations and interests, and it would be helpful to know what those are to better understand the conflict.
While media bias is not a chiddush, they usually at least pretend to present a “balance”, but that is completely absent in the coverage of this war. Also, although NATO forces are not directly engaging Russia in this conflict, relying instead on sanctions, private American and European companies have weaponized “cancel culture” with an integrative technology-fueled rapidity only feasible in the last decade or two, delivering substantial damage to the Russian economy and instantaneously turning Russian citizens into personae non gratae. The astonishing unity in this effort is likely largely a result of the quizzical one-sided media coverage.
In this case, these efforts seem to be justified. Whatever the motivations, Putin’s forces did violently invade a neighboring country that posed no direct and immediate threat to Russian interests, and his military has shown little regard for civilian life or the lives of its own troops. His activation of nuclear readiness increases the threat of small scale accidents or incidents triggering a broader nuclear conflict, which endangers us all. But watching the media and companies in lockstep, framing the conflict as good vs a non-contextualized evil, I still feel a chill run down my spine. We are witnessing a new weapon of war, developed and refined through efforts such as BDS, the vilification of political opponents or those critical of Covid response policies, etc., that has now become devastatingly powerful.March 7, 2022 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #2066942
Putin is attacking Ukraine because of Nato forces which Ukraine is letting in that are positioning themselves and military equipment on Russian borders. Ukraine is run by corrupt government and their president was placed in power with the help of George Soros. Putin is against globalization and is in the way of one world government agenda and lgbtq agenda propogated by world economic forum, the same people who are behind the covid scam. Putin is in their way. They are encroaching on him by taking over neighboring countries. He has warned them for years not to do this. It is extremely unfortunate that it is innocent people that always end up suffering. But the people who are at fault here are Nato, US war mongers and the rest of the globalist elite. They are using the Ukrainian people as the victims of Putin in order to accomplish their own agenda, the more people die and suffer, the better it is for them. Just like when Israel kills Palestinians when protecting itself, it’s good for Palestinians, suffering of ukrnian people is a tool to arouse world hatred towards Russia. Yest they are doing everything to provoke Russia. “Russia, Russia, Russia! ”March 7, 2022 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #2066946
You usually hit the target, but this post has missed it completely.
If you would have written this before the first day of the attack , I could understand your questioning about a “balance” , but we are already 12 days into the war and we have seen the atrocities that Putin has committed. Plus, the media has covered Putin’s public pronouncements. So , they have given his side of the story.
If NK would attack SK would you expect the media coverage to be balanced?
If NK attacked SK and started killing civilians , caused millions to become refugees, and destroyed cities do you think the media should be fair to what Kim’s reasons for wanting SK ?
Putin is the exact same dictator as Kim. THE EXACT SAME DICTATOR. I call him the mini-hitler. Actually he is far worse than Kim because Kim likes to talk a big talk but actually has not attacked anybody.
The countries taking in refugees and penalizing Russian Oligarchs, companies that buy and sell from Russia that have stopped doing business and the entire world media (besides Russian controlled ) all see this attack for what it is. An unprovoked attack against civilians by a Rasha.March 7, 2022 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #2066959
In the universe that the rest of the world lives in – also called the real world – attacking civilians and then blaming everybody else is called psychopathy.
The only people that believe it are other psychopaths and people who have become accustomed to the persons psychopathy.March 7, 2022 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #2066979☕️coffee addictParticipant
“Putin is attacking Ukraine because of Nato forces which Ukraine is letting in that are positioning themselves and military equipment on Russian borders.”
So why is zelensky complaining, he has nato soldiers there in the front lines?March 7, 2022 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #2066990
“If you would have written this before the first day of the attack , I could understand your questioning about a “balance”
1. The lack of coverage of the Russian position predated the invasion. There was widespread coverage of the Russian military buildup along the Ukrainian border and the threat of war, but very little coverage of why the buildup was occurring. Therefore Russian atrocities did not cause the lack of balanced coverage.
2. I think you misunderstood my intention with the OP; maybe I didn’t write it clearly. In many cases when the media gives equal coverage to both sides in a conflict, I 100% agree with you; it actually creates a coverage imbalance when responsibility for the violence is not symmetric. The media invariably plays this equal coverage game during conflicts between Israel and Hamas or Hezbollah, with the result of elevating terrorism and creating a false narrative of a “cycle of violence”. My point in the OP is that with respect to this conflict in Ukraine, the media has departed from the both sides covered equally philosophy. And this has given moral cover (and pressure) for governments and corporations to launch an astonishingly coordinated and rapid removal of Russia from global society. Propaganda, sanctions, and boycotts have always been a part of warfare, but it’s the global extent, speed, scale, and coercive nature of these tactics in this conflict that have surprised me. And made me wonder who they’ll be used on next.
TL;DR, Russia deserves the cancellation it’s getting, but the machinery of this cancellation itself is rather frightening. It’s the first time global interconnectedness has been weaponized to this extent and speed.
“Plus, the media has covered Putin’s public pronouncements. So , they have given his side of the story.”
They have covered his statements insofar as to make him look deranged and unhinged. Which he may be, but I think is unlikely given his long history of cold, calculated patience. My best guess is that he was hoping to replicate the United States’ 2003 shock and awe campaign against Iraq to demonstrate Russia’s military might to the world, followed by a rapid invasion to topple or exile Zelenskyy’s government as the US then did to Saddam Hussein. Then either negotiate a demilitarized Ukraine or install a pro-Russian government and leave it to fight any insurgencies with Russian backing. I think he believed the world was resigned to this outcome. But unlike the US, Russia did not immediately achieve air superiority, leaving its invasion forces vulnerable to attack from the air, and its multi-pronged invasion was poorly coordinated, poorly supported, and the troops poorly trained.
“If NK would attack SK would you expect the media coverage to be balanced?”
No, but I think I’d expect to know why NK attacked at that particular time.
“If NK attacked SK and started killing civilians , caused millions to become refugees, and destroyed cities do you think the media should be fair to what Kim’s reasons for wanting SK ?”
It’s not about fairness, I never wrote fair. It’s about knowing what’s going on in the world, and getting a better handle on the complexity of the situation beyond “he’s the devil, you must hate him or you’re a bad person yourself.”March 7, 2022 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #2067035
Your new Post has hit the target.
However, I disagree with the position that the media created the narrative either by not covering each side equally or by not covering the cause for the buildup.
The reality of the situation has created it.
And the global “cancel culture” is not due to any pressure but due to what the world sees as a Megalomaniac Dictator who after having bitten off Crimea and other Ukrainian lands, decided he wants the whole country no matter how many people will die and suffer.
I reported on the numbers of refugees that this invasion has caused (over a million and a half) and the countries that share a border with Ukraine (Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Moldova , Romania ) and others (including Israel) that have graciously taken them in.
It is not due to any pressure, media or cancel culture. It is due to a fellowship of humanity.
The world does not want a WW3. Putin definitely wants a WW3. Or at least doesn’t care if he is the
cause of it.
I also disagree with your definition of cancel culture.
Sanctions on enemy countries has been a long standing policy in Foreign Affairs. There are many countries that it is illegal to do business with. (Iran, the Taliban , NK for example.)
Sometimes the situation might be complex and have a long history but the current affairs are very simple. An evil psychopath unleashed an invasion that has caused an enormous amount of harm in the world.March 7, 2022 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm #2067051
Kudos to Jack for demonstrating exactly the reaction the world elite and war mongers want you to have. The idea is to get people to react emotionally like Jack and throw the world into WW3 chvsh.
Putin is not a nice guy, but Putin is a very smart guy, and he knows what he is doing.
Jack in his emotional state thinks that Putin should care for people of Ukraine more than Ukrainian government and world elites who did everything to trigger this war.
Think of all the millions of people killed by America in wars in Iraq and Aphganistan. Why Jack is not calling Bush psychopath? Trump was the only US president not to start any wars in recent History.
They all have no care for human life. They just use human death and suffering as a springboard to bring on more death and suffering.
Wake up Jack, to the Real World!March 7, 2022 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #2067062
Avram: Excellent OP. On the point, all points, and honestly nothing more to say or add.March 8, 2022 12:21 am at 12:21 am #2067094
These are terms that only conspiracy theorists and their ilk use.
“The world elite”
“One world government agenda”
“lgbtq agenda propogated by world economic forum”
By the way , on your statements previously in other posts, you owe Klal Yisrael an apology:
1) You stated that “The idea of Gadol Hador itself is very questionable, and has no source in Jewish tradition.”
The term Gadol Hador is not ‘questionable’ and has been recognized since Moshe Rabeinu. In every generation Hashem has put leaders of Klal Yisrael.
2) Your statement, “Why do we care what the Satmar Rebbe said? ”
You should care about everything the Satmar Rebbe said. His Torah, Tzidkus and Chesed are legendary.
3) Your statement , “The more “farfrumt” the community, the more ignorant the women are ” is ludicrous and preposterous. You owe Klal Yisrael an apology.March 8, 2022 9:20 am at 9:20 am #2067175commonsaychelParticipant
@avram in md, It depends on who’s ox is being gored, cancel culture is a invention of the left and they marched in lockstep with me too, the BLM and covid regulations, anyone who dared to say otherwise was ostracized, this is just taking it on a international level.March 8, 2022 10:54 am at 10:54 am #2067207
Get your head out of the sand. Everything I have said is a fact, not a theory. Whatevsr you didn’t hear on CNN is “conspiracy theory?” Did you check Snopes maybe to know what’s fact and what’s fiction?
Name calling “conspiracy theorists” is just for those who have no argument.
Whatch recordings of World Economic Forum speaches, and then decide what is a theory and what is not.
editedMarch 8, 2022 10:56 am at 10:56 am #2067217
“I also disagree with your definition of cancel culture.
Sanctions on enemy countries has been a long standing policy in Foreign Affairs. There are many countries that it is illegal to do business with. (Iran, the Taliban , NK for example.)”
Correct, and I even wrote “propaganda, sanctions, and boycotts have always been a part of warfare” in my post you are responding to. The difference here, however, is that much of this economic warfare has been waged by private companies and citizens who were not under legal obligation to stop doing business with Russia. They were doing it themselves in response to media reports and social media backlash.
“It is not due to any pressure, media or cancel culture. It is due to a fellowship of humanity.”
I think you want to deny the existence of this weapon because you support what it’s doing right now. Yale University publishes a spreadsheet of companies that continue to do any business with Russia, maintained by Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and his research team. On the Yale Web page, we see this blurb:
“Nevertheless, some western companies have continued to operate in Russia undeterred; we identify several dozen companies with particularly significant exposure to Russian markets. In the days since we initially published our list, many of the “remain” companies have responded to public backlash and decided to withdraw, and we are continuously revising our list to reflect these decisions as they are made.”
In a Washington Post article covering this spreadsheet, Sonnenfeld reports receiving calls from CEOs asking him what they need to do to get on the “right” list. So we have a Yale professor publishing a list of entities directing where an angry public can vent their social media wrath after watching media coverage of the war in Ukraine, with the openly stated purpose of coercing them to participate in economic warfare against Russia.
Make no mistake, this is 100% a weaponizing of cancel culture, unleashed with breathtaking speed, scope, and coordination. I am not trying to argue with you whether it’s the right thing to do in this particular situation or not. If Putin is a mini-Hitler as you say, then getting Russians to remove him from power themselves may be the only way to avert direct conflict between Russia and the West. I am simply pointing out the existence and power of this unconventional weapon, and expressing fear that it could be easily misused, e.g., to persecute Israel or suppress dissenting viewpoints even in vibrant democracies. It is BDS perfected.March 8, 2022 1:21 pm at 1:21 pm #2067274
I never heard of Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and his spreadsheet.
The size and amount of international companies that are partaking in this boycott and the speed it was done leads me to believe that they had good intentions and were not forced by fear of a backlash.
I agree there are late comers that are doing it for fear of backlash and it could potentially be used against any country including Israel.
But, I think that this is a clear case of an aggressor doing very bad things and it would be very hard to enact where this isn’t the case.
So far, it has not stopped Putin.March 8, 2022 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #2067398
“I never heard of Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and his spreadsheet.”
I imagine a few activists and social media influencers do.
“The size and amount of international companies that are partaking in this boycott and the speed it was done leads me to believe that they had good intentions and were not forced by fear of a backlash.”
The complete reversal of Democratic Party politics from a healthy skepticism and distrust of large corporations prior to the mid 2000s to almost adulation since the 2010s has really taken me by surprise.
“But, I think that this is a clear case of an aggressor doing very bad things and it would be very hard to enact where this isn’t the case.”
That I think is one place where we really disagree.
“So far, it has not stopped Putin.”
It’s a risky gamble, because turning Russian citizens into pariahs could indeed incite anger against Putin and lead to his removal, but it could also backfire and stoke a wave of Russian patriotism and nationalism. Also, Europe continues to buy huge amounts of Russian energy resources, and with prices rocketing through the stratosphere, that may be temporarily offsetting some of the bite of sanctions.March 8, 2022 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm #2067446
And the complete reversal of the Republican party from a healthy distrust of Russia to a almost adulation since the 2010s has really taken me by surprise.March 8, 2022 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #2067455LostsparkParticipant
How much do you want to bet moral posturing economic warfare will be used on EY the same way it has on Russia? You know the corporate stooges will go for it if it makes the blue haired mobs spend money.March 8, 2022 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #2067513
> Republican party from a healthy distrust of Russia to a almost adulation since the 2010s
who would be that? Pompeo? Pence? McConnell? Graham? I don’t think so. Trump who tried to cancel NS2? Some minor congressman or a fox news personage? I am confused what you are talking about – or just feel a need to rebut the charge against Ds.March 8, 2022 11:33 pm at 11:33 pm #2067544
The Democrats have long had a love relationship with communism and the Soviet Union. It was only after Putin hit back hard against Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s 2014 involvement in supporting the coup d’etat and violent overthrow of the democratically elected government of Ukraine that Democrats turned on Putin and Russia.March 9, 2022 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #2067688
“And the complete reversal of the Republican party from a healthy distrust of Russia to a almost adulation since the 2010s has really taken me by surprise.”
It is surprising to me too, though it seems to be coming primarily from a right wing faction of the party, whereas most other Republicans such as Lindsey Graham are advocating for straight up brinkmanship policies with Russia, including establishing a no-fly zone over Ukraine. Trump’s own relationship with Russia seems inconsistent and chaotic, alternating between fawning over Putin and advocating European NATO members to up their military prowess and limit reliance on Russian energy resources. I do not know what motives or connections Trump has to Russia, but he likes to flatter those he cannot control, and daunt those he can.
As for support for Russia in some right wing circles, it could be due to Russian propaganda infiltrating into parts of right wing media, or white supremacist ideologies calling for the uniting of “white” nations. Putin is also cast as a foil to western globalization and liberalization efforts.March 9, 2022 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #2067696
“How much do you want to bet moral posturing economic warfare will be used on EY the same way it has on Russia?”
This is one of the reasons I wrote my OP. Israel’s opponents have tried to use these tactics for years, that is what BDS is all about, but it has not been anywhere near as effective as this campaign launched against Russia. Part of the reason for the ineffectiveness is Israel’s ability to get its own message out to the world. What if that changes?
You know the corporate stooges will go for it if it makes the blue haired mobs spend money.
I think they fear the stick more than want the carrot. Social media has opened up a new frontier of engagement between businesses and customers apart from selling and purchasing products. The by-product of that is now people don’t just want a burger, they want to make sure the burger place supports their political views. And if it doesn’t they’ll use social media to shame anyone who eats a burger from that place. Now businesses are wading into issues where they have no expertise, and the marketplace is fracturing along political fault lines, with some brands supported by Democrats, and other brands by Republicans for example.March 9, 2022 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #2067793
I am not sure if you are seeing the daily documented war crimes being committed by Russia in Ukraine.
The following are all documented with videos, photos and eyewitnesses.
Innocent civilians massacred, Hospitals destroyed, Residential building razed, usage of mines on refugees fleeing, using weapons that have been internationally outlawed, using Ambulances to transport weapons and other crimes.
There is also documented human rights abuses that Russia is committing on it’s own citizens.
When everyone has a phone with a camera and video on it , it is very hard to hide these abuses.
I extend my hand to you to retract your support of Putin today or you can wait for the War Crimes Tribunal.March 9, 2022 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm #2067865
“I extend my hand to you to retract your support of Putin today or you can wait for the War Crimes Tribunal.”
This has no relevance to my points, and I am not a Putin supporter. We don’t seem to be communicating very well, so let me try the risky venture of using an analogy.
Let’s say there’s two fictional island nations: Lilliput and Blefuscu. One day, Lilliput launches an unprovoked and violent assault on Blefuscu because the Lilliputians don’t like how the Blefuscans open their eggs. Suddenly, all of the other nations in the world deploy a new ray gun that zaps the water around Lilliput, instantaneously creating a massive whirlpool that no boats can cross.
Now the actual act of using the ray gun against Lilliput was justified and correct in this situation – Lilliput needed to be stopped, and surrounding their island with a whirlpool hurt their war effort. But now I’m pointing out how scary a weapon that ray gun is, and I’m worried about how it’ll be used next, and you’re telling me that there is no ray gun and that the waters just frothed up by themselves because the ocean was mad at how evil Lilliput is, and if I don’t accept that, I’m a Lilliputian supporter.March 9, 2022 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #2067868
“I extend my hand to you to retract your support of Putin today or you can wait for the War Crimes Tribunal.”
Also, is that an attempt at a veiled threat?March 9, 2022 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #2067918
Avram, I think I understand what you are saying, but I think fretting about these possible side effects is sort of inappropriate in the view of ongoing carnage and risk of escalation. There are so many real issues here. This is like those who worry about vaccine side effects in the face of a sickness.March 10, 2022 1:14 am at 1:14 am #2067939LostsparkParticipant
I wonder what Russia did to have such a zechus to not have McDonalds, CNN, Facebook, etc no longer foisted upon their population.
Sometimes I think EY could use these corporate entities cutting them off so they could see the left is no friend of the Jew any longer. I’m no fan of the new emerging volkish right, but the pendulum of power has swung way to far to the left. I’m afraid if this continues America’s soul searching will send us careening in the opposite direction which is just as terrible if not worse.
The two poles right now are Volkish right and Boleshivik left. Appealing to either side of this will have consequences that are not good.March 10, 2022 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm #20680452scentsParticipant
We cannot have it both ways, we cannot cancel companies for assisting or being contracted by Hitler and yet complain when companies are being pressured to cease doing business with or even in Russia.
There always is the risk that cancel culture may be extended for political and social causes, but that does not mean that using it for evil of such magnitude and extreme, such as killing civilians and hospitals is uncalled for.March 10, 2022 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm #2068065
“Avram, I think I understand what you are saying, but I think fretting about these possible side effects is sort of inappropriate in the view of ongoing carnage and risk of escalation.”
How exactly is this discussion inappropriate? I’m not providing succor to Russia, nor am I minimizing or denying the suffering of Ukrainians. Russia is committing atrocities and must be stopped. All I’m doing is pointing out the existence of a new weapon/technique/front of warfare that has been deployed. I thought this thread would go in the direction of a commentary on the increasing power of media, social media, and viral shaming to direct public behavior in a highly coordinated fashion, but it seems that discussing it at all must mean that I support the supervillian in a war of good vs evil, and thus am evil myself. What a distortion. On the contrary, you and jackk have convinced me that this topic is imperative to bring up.
“There are so many real issues here.”
Relative privation fallacy.March 10, 2022 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #2068159
“I wonder what Russia did to have such a zechus to not have McDonalds, CNN, Facebook, etc no longer foisted upon their population.”
“Sometimes I think EY could use these corporate entities cutting them off so they could see the left is no friend of the Jew any longer.”
I’m not much of a fan of the school of hard knocks, and I like the chocolate chunks in Phish Food.
“I’m afraid if this continues America’s soul searching will send us careening in the opposite direction which is just as terrible if not worse.”
I agree 100%.
“The two poles right now are Volkish right and Boleshivik left. Appealing to either side of this will have consequences that are not good.”
Yes the middle has fallen into the abyss in American politics and cultural debates, and interestingly those who try to stake out a middle ground are harassed with much more vigor than the extremists (examples: Simena, Manchin, and so-called RINOs).March 10, 2022 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #2068167
“We cannot have it both ways, we cannot cancel companies for assisting or being contracted by Hitler and yet complain when companies are being pressured to cease doing business with or even in Russia.”
This is a really good point, and I agree with you. Let me clarify that in my OP and subsequent posts I am not meaning to argue against boycotts in general. I personally can’t think of any better ways to handle the current situation, given the peril to the world of direct confrontation between nuclear powers. What I intended to point out was how coordinated, rapid, and policed this boycott was from the outset and at a point in time when information was more scarce.March 10, 2022 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #20681892scentsParticipant
“What I intended to point out was how coordinated, rapid, and policed this boycott was from the outset and at a point in time when information was more scarce.”
Rapid indeed. So was the Russian invasion and its killing of civilians. The Russians may have been counting on the fact that reaction, at least the reactions that would matter will take some time, and by that time all will be over.
For the reaction (sanction and boycotts) to be effective, they needed to be deployed rapidly.
Russia initially lied to the world when it announced that it has no intention of invading Ukraine and is moving its military away from the border. This was a lie, and likely to avoid any rapid reaction to their offensive.
Some companies are pulling away from the Russian market to avoid being hit with government-induced sanctions. Others to avoid negativity.
Russia is indeed being canceled and the way it APPEARS at this moment, for good reason. As you pointed out, I sure hope that this never gets utilized for other ideologies. But right now, this is not some ideology that people subscribe to, it’s a mass-murdering scenario and needs to be stopped. If these are the means to stop it, it may be worth it.
Lastly, I am sure that it took little convincing for most companies to divest and pull out of Russia, with the tanking and unstable economy, not much business is to be made in Russia at this point. They just run the risk of Russia finding alternative companies to work with, such as Chinese companies.March 10, 2022 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #2068209
this boycott is so coordinated due to brutality of events – and reaction of population. Even those politicians who would prefer doing nothing, see how people react and follow them. Maybe it is a good thing that world has a moment of clarity in the face of evil, and we need to acknowledge that.March 10, 2022 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #2068253
The American Reform led so-called “Jewish” boycott against Nazi Germany backfired badly and caused untold additional suffering towards German/European Jews.March 11, 2022 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #2068449
“For the reaction (sanction and boycotts) to be effective, they needed to be deployed rapidly.”
I agree with this and everything else you wrote. It was just that the rapidity surprised me, and from my perspective the impetus largely came from social media pressure rather than governmental decree, which is a new phenomenon. Jackk and Always_Ask_Questions would argue that it came from a recoiling from Russia’s brutality towards civilians. I think that became increasingly true, but a lot of the initial coordinated cancelling came about while Russia was still seemingly utilizing surgical strikes and targeting mainly military infrastructure.March 11, 2022 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #2068450
“Maybe it is a good thing that world has a moment of clarity in the face of evil, and we need to acknowledge that.”
I acknowledge it.March 12, 2022 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm #2068488
Avram > a lot of the initial coordinated cancelling came about while Russia was still seemingly utilizing surgical strikes
for most enlightened nations, an unprovoked war in Europe sounded unbelievable. Western Europeans built up theories that if they engage Rashiim in oil trade, then mutual benefit will lead to peace despite all indications to the contrary. Thus, when their beliefs were shuttered, they had to respond (either because they admitted new reality, or they admitted that their politics was failing and they have to show a change).
This is like Noach who “believed and did not believe” and did not go inside the tevah until water came to his feet. Except that Noach was building the Tevah for 120 years despite not fully internalizing what will happen, but Europeans did not prepare for the worst, including Ukrainians themselves – they had 30 years to put IEDs under the roads and build road blocks. They actually woke up a couple of days in advance, thanking US for the info, and were able to move their equipment from being bombed and block the rail connections.
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