January 27, 2013 9:05 pm at 9:05 pm #607983
As usual, there is a famine in North Korea. Unusually, cases of reported cannibalism have been rising.
What is the Torah view on this? What is this meant to teach us?January 27, 2013 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #924759
There have never been reliable reports out of the reculsive North Korea, as no reporters are allowed in that country.
So take everything you read with 10 grains of salt.January 27, 2013 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #924760
Avhaben: Right, the situation is probably even worse than what they report.January 27, 2013 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #924761
The situation may be better or worse. Most likely the report has no bearing on the actual truth. Reports out of North Korea have historically been notoriously incorrect.January 27, 2013 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm #924762
why doesnt the united states send them some food or water to water their crops??January 27, 2013 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm #924763
We have no way of knowing whether they were correct or incorrect.
The fact that it is reported means we have something to learn.January 27, 2013 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm #924764
The U.S. used to send them emergency food aid but they stopped it after the two governments kept getting at each other throats.January 27, 2013 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm #924765ToiParticipant
because theyre north korea…January 27, 2013 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #924766
Purplicious, that’s a great question. They have tried, but the government confiscates anything they send and does not take care of their own people, preferring to direct their resources to becoming a nuclear power.January 27, 2013 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm #924767zahavasdadParticipant
There is no food there, that is known
Satellite photographs show the country as brown (meaning no green plants) likley because even the grass was eatenJanuary 27, 2013 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm #924768
oh gosh.. so everyones just guna starve 2 death?? thats insane.. any jews there? i cud mail them foood!!January 28, 2013 12:17 am at 12:17 am #924769zahavasdadParticipant
oh gosh.. so everyones just guna starve 2 death?? thats insane.. any jews there? i cud mail them foood!!
What difference does it make if there are jews are not, Someone starving is someone starving.
But you cant send food there anyway, the country is cut offJanuary 28, 2013 12:19 am at 12:19 am #924770rationalfrummieMember
Purplicious- The U.S. has no official diplomatic relationship or ties with North Korea, and has not had any for a long time- I don’t think there much you can do.
The despotic, selfish North Korean government brought this on themselves. May Hashem help all the innocent people who are living in poverty and stuck in this terrible country.January 28, 2013 12:36 am at 12:36 am #924771
No ties? The U.S. and N.K. are currently in a state of war. (And have been so since the Korean War in the ’50’s.)January 28, 2013 12:40 am at 12:40 am #924772yytzParticipant
North Korea is probably the worst government in the world. In less closed societies with bad governments, we should support efforts to improve things. But in NK, no NGOs operate there, because the country is controlled in such a totalitarian way. So we can’t donate. All we can do is pray that Hashem removes these wicked rulers. We “should constantly pray for mercy and blessing for the world just as the Supernal Father has mercy on all His creatures.” (Tomer Devorah.)January 28, 2013 1:20 am at 1:20 am #924773rationalfrummieMember
avhaben: what’s the nafka minah? The point remains the same- north korea is not a place we should be sending our tax dollars to.January 28, 2013 1:24 am at 1:24 am #924774
Is sending billions of dollars a year to Egypt a better use of money than to feed starving Koreans?January 28, 2013 1:33 am at 1:33 am #924775em0616Member
North Korea has concentration camps, holding about 200,000 people deemed hostile to the region. Man, ladies and children work 16 hours a day, and are forced to survive by eating rats and picking corn kernels out of animal waste. Tens of thousands die from malnutrition, and other diseases.January 28, 2013 3:19 am at 3:19 am #924776
wow sounds terrible.. what abt the gov ppl? how are they eating? so basically north koreas guna be wiped off the map if e/o dies.. this is so scary… what are we supp 2 do? is the us gov having meetings abt it? like sec of state??January 28, 2013 3:44 am at 3:44 am #924777yehudayonaParticipant
The late “Dear Leader,” Kim Jong-il, spent hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on Hennessey Cognac while his people starved.January 28, 2013 3:52 am at 3:52 am #924778rebdonielMember
Koreans eat dogs, so this doesn’t surprise me all that much.
Foreign aid is not our duty; aid to Israel is patronizingly antisemitic and foreign aid in general constitutes a form of imperialism.
We have a duty to our own people first and foremost. When we don’t have working Americans going to bed hungry, then we can worry about others. Foreign aid is unconstitutional.January 28, 2013 4:08 am at 4:08 am #924779akupermaParticipant
Be wary of what you read in the press. Few journalists have access to North Korea, and the sources of “information” are enemies of the regime. While that doesn’t prove the falsehood of the statements, it suggests being dubious.
Enemies of people, especially when engaged in a life or death armed struggle, do tend to be less than objective in reporting (and making up) facts.
Given that in a war the government will depend on the loyalty of the conscript army, I doubt they’ll try to antagonize them by eating their relatives.January 28, 2013 1:34 pm at 1:34 pm #924780em0616Member
A couple thousand North Korean defectors manage to flee
across the border each year, and their plight is very well
documented. If anyone is caught escaping the country, or
repatriated by China, their punishments are extremely severe.
There is plenty of documentation on life in North Korea.
And it’s well known that in the 90’s, an estimated two million
people died from famine. Video footage back then, clearly
showed sickly emaciated children, some with stick-thin bodies.
Although journalists do not have access to North Korea, the
thousands of defectors each year provide a gold-mine of
And every single year, there are reports from defectors about
cannibalism, and bodies being dug up after funeral.
I am sure their army gets preferential treatment, and are well
All of their citizens are brainwashed. Have you seen the footage
of the mass hysteria when Kim Jong-il passed away?January 28, 2013 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #924782alternate viewParticipant
Any food that gets donated to North Korea is given to the army. The regular citizens can eat rats, grass, plant roots etc.
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