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  • #897846
    methinks
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    probably 🙂

    #897848
    ED IT OR
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    Jaguar xfr?

    #897849
    MiddlePath
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    crazybrit, the XFR is a terrific car, crazy powerful, and quite expensive. It can definitely compete with its German rivals (the M5, RS6, and E63 AMG) on the track, and is probably just as good to drive on the road as well. Overall, an awesome car, though may be a bit lacking in reliability. But if you can afford it, chances are you can afford to fix it if it breaks down.

    And thanks for reviving this thread!

    #897850
    MiddlePath
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    Not that anyone here really cares too much about cars, but I just wanted to have a go at the new Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse, which is set to be debuted at the Geneva Auto Show later this year.

    In my opinion, Bugatti is doing less to actually improve and create new masterpieces in favor of making money; which is all too common. The new Grand Sport Vitesse, IMO, was only built to achieve the record of being the fastest production roadster in the world. They just took the Super Sport, chopped the roof off, and are now being praised for that “geniousness”. Really, it should be called the Super Sport Vitesse, not the Grand Sport Vitesse, since the 16 cylinder, quad-turbocharged engine is taken from the Super Sport, not the Grand Sport. They’ve done nothing to the bodywork, save for chopping off the roof. It reminds me of the Iphone.. change the color, add a few features that you had the technology for anyway, and sell it as something “new”. And people still buy it.

    Then again, based on Loewy’s MAYA principle, perhaps Bugatti is simply trying to maintain their “look”, since it has become so iconic, and are making tiny changes without leaping into new territory. But really. I think they have the brainpower to do much more than that, and the money as well. Perhaps VW is holding them down.

    Granted, Pagani did the same thing when they were just churning out Zondas with tiny adjustments that differentiated them from one another, but at least they just came out with the Huayra. Something new. And they’re a MUCH smaller company than Bugatti. So, please, Bugatti, have your next car be something new, something different. You can keep the horseshoe shaped grill. But I’m getting bored of everything else.

    #897851
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    Bugatti!

    did you see there teaser picture a year ago or so of the back of a car?

    awesome gorgeous lights and 5 exhausts on each side, Wow

    #897852
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    oh and have you seen the Bugatti manicure kit? !!!

    #897853
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    new question: if you could choose any car and make whatever modifications you want what would it/they be?

    Me, Mini cooper s works with rwd and around 360 horses from a v8! oh and a small hybrid engine on the front wheels for round town

    #897854
    MiddlePath
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    Yep, that Bugatti was amazing, but that was just a concept car.. wish they would put it into production! And that’s funny about the manicure kit!

    Ooh, nice choice on the Works Cooper! That’s for sure the best Mini tuner brand. That would be a great rally car!

    Hmm.. my first choice would be the CL Brabus, with the 6.3 liter BiTurbo V12, which churns out 700 bhp. Second choice would be between the Porsche 997 GT3 RS (track edition) and the BMW B5 Alpina, which I think is even better than the standard M5, if that were possible. In terms of specific upgrades, I’d have carbon ceramic brakes, carbon fiber body panels, Recaro seats, and Pirellis.

    But all that’s with no limit on price. If I were going for something more practical, it would be between the Subaru Impreza WRX STI, Golf GTI, Works Cooper (yea, it’s awesome), and the Civic Type R VTEC.

    #897855
    Ctrl Alt Del
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    Bugatti…. harumpf!! Its no kuntz to make a speed demon if your production cost is so massive that you have state its price in terms of millions of dollars. (1/4, 1/2, or 3/4)I would challenge them to turn out an asphalt burner for under 100 grand like the Mustang Saleen or Charger SRT8. Something that is even remotely available to the masses. An M5 a 911, or even anything from AMG still falls into that category.

    #897856
    MiddlePath
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    Ctrl Alt Del, I see what you’re saying, but I think there’s a big, big difference between a “speed demon” and a properly good car. Anyone can bolt 1000 bhp to a muscle car and have a speed demon, but it won’t last, it won’t be able to go around corners without shredding its tires, and at high speeds, it’ll feel like you’re driving over rocks. The amazing thing about the Veyron is that besides being amazingly fast, and amazingly powerful, it will last a long time, it can go around corners with unbelievable grip, and even at high speeds, it feels as smooth as silk. For that kind of engineering, and for those materials, the cost will be extremely high, of course.

    I actually don’t really like the Veyron that much, because it just seems TOO technical. It’s not lively. For that kind of money, you’d at least want a thrill. So in terms of that, yes, a tuned Mustang or Charger will give you that, for much less cash.

    It’s kind of like a couple of the newer Ferraris: the 458 and the 599. The 599 is undeniably faster, more powerful, and just better. But it is SO technical. Computers control just about everything, it almost feels like it’s driving itself. The 458 on the other hand, is much more analog. You feel like you’re in charge. There’s so much more of a thrill, even though it’s not as fast or as powerful as the 599. And, the 458 is so much more beautiful.

    #897857
    Ctrl Alt Del
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    I agree, there is no point in driving a computer. Its very… clinical. Being in tune with the road? Now that’s where the thrill is. This is actually something BMW has excelled at for many years. Now, American manufacturers are getting it. With the Charger, Mustang, and God help us (deep breath) the Challenger. And on the luxury side, the Caddy CTS. Though I myself prefer classic American muscle, I can also see the appeal of Rice Rockets too but I have never driven one.

    #897858
    MiddlePath
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    Yea, the new CTS-V is actually a very good handling car. It was tested on the Nurburgring to make sure it can compete with its foreign rivals. I am still not sold yet on American muscles, and much prefer European performance. But the muscles are getting better and better. I was never into the Japanese tuners, though they may look cool and be powerful. If I’m going Japanese, I’d rather have a stock GTR than a heavily tuned RX-8 or 370Z.

    #897859
    BTGuy
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    Hi middlepath.

    Great idea for a thread.

    My favorites are the 57 ‘Vette, 68 GTO, and 68 Jaguar XKE.

    Personally, I have only owned a 68 Merc Cougar, ’70 Javelin AMX (Remember American Motors?), ’72 Dodge Charger, ’82 Camaro Iroc-Z, although by then, the classic era was way over.

    It is always a treat to see those cars on the road and at those shows you run into in department store parking lots.

    #897860

    My brain hurts JUST reading all this car lingo…

    Hey MP, great opening line about manicures!!

    #897861
    MiddlePath
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    BTGuy, wow, you’ve owned some really cool cars! I absolutely love the old Charger, it is one of the best “bad boy” cars ever. (As in Bullitt, for example.) And the Camaro Iroc is a beautiful piece as well. Nice collection you’ve had! Do you still have any of them? I know a guy that currently owns a collection of Vettes from the 60’s as well as a late-60’s Shelby Cobra, all in great condition. They all sit in his garage, though he takes them out a little in the summer.

    And yes, the E-Type Jag is, in my opinion, the most beautiful car ever made. (I think the second most beautiful car is probably the 300SL, with the gullwings.) I actually saw an amazing E-Type racing edition replica a few months ago..with that gorgeous Jag green paint job.. it was unbelievable! I recently went to an Auto Show, and they had a 64 GTO in perfect condition, it was extremely cool!

    In terms of muscle cars, I’d prefer classic over new. Like I’d definitely take a 60’s Charger or Vette over a new Charger or Vette.

    Haha, thanks No One Mourns!

    #897862
    miritchka
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    So, i dont go for manicures that often, but when i do i stick with light colors. the only time i had a french was at my wedding. the once in a blue moon that i get to go get a manicure, i always smush a tiny bit. Thats my signature design, perfect nails with one smudge!

    Now pedicures, that would be awesome if i would have time for that!

    Oh, and cars? all i know is we have one that works!

    #897863
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    e type, ooh

    how about the Ford torino, that was beautiful

    #897864
    MiddlePath
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    miritcka, thanks for sharing! That’s funny about the smudge!

    crazybrit, yea, the Torino was indeed gorgeous. Wish they’d have continued making it. Also, once we’re talking about beautiful cars that are no longer made, we must acknowledge the Lancia Stratos. I know, it wasn’t very well built or very reliable, but wow, was it amazing to see.

    #897865
    BTGuy
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    Hi MiddlePath.

    Bullit? lol I rented that a while back just to see the car chase scene in there.

    I definitely agree with even ANY 60’s muscle car over anything in “modern times” although I have to admit, I would take a Plymouth Prowler. Do you remember those?

    In today’s cars, I usually battle the Camaro over the Challenger. These days I am perferring the Challenger because of it’s simpler lines. But then I switch back to the Camaro. lol

    Those cars are really beautiful works of living art, in their own way.

    Not to throw a monkey wrench into the convo, but in terms of motor vehicles, the larger Harley Davidson motorcycles are a work of art. I have gone to the showroom a few times and just sit back and have said to myself if metal machinery can be a work of art, the Harley Davidson motorcycle is just that.

    Back to cars. The way they make these things look and handle when driving, is a miraculous accomplishment in the world of engineering. Quite amazing.

    #897866
    MiddlePath
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    BTGuy, yep, Bullitt probably has the best car chase scene ever. Runner ups would be Ronin, Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, and maybe Transporter. I’m not sold on the new Challenger. I’ve never really liked it, and I don’t think I ever will.

    And yea, Harleys are beautiful machines. I’m not a big motorcycle guru, but I think I’d prefer a Kawasaki to a Harley. It just looks more sleek to me.

    I forgot to mention a car that may be even more beautiful than the 300SL- The Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione. It is simply breathtaking. That is real art! And yes, I’ve always been fascinated with the engineering achievements in cars. For a while, I was considering going into auto engineering and design, but it’s a very competitive field, and there are only a few locations where one can live with such a job. But I still very much like it, and consider it a hobby.

    Some new car news: I just saw on Car and Driver’s webpage that the Lamborghini LP700 (Aventador) will be made as a roadster next year, besides the hardtop version. And this goes back to what I said about the Veyron Vitesse. I don’t like when they do that. But the truth is, at least the Aventador is pretty much an all new car, both outside and in, and isn’t at all derived from the old Murcielago, so making a roaster of it is actually not too bad. I think it will actually look amazing. I just hope it’s not gonna be a cloth roof. I’d want a carbon fiber removable roof.

    #897867
    BTGuy
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    Hi MiddlePath.

    I have to add that in the Lambo and Ferrari wars, I am a Lambo fan.

    Also, do they still make the Stutz Bearcat?

    How about the Yugo? …just kidding on that one. lol

    #897868
    MiddlePath
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    I am fan of both Lambo and Ferrari. I just think they serve different functions; Ferraris are made with the primary focus being on impeccable standards of engineering and physics, and their designs follow that lead. Lambos on the other hand, are primarily concerned about futuristic design and appeal, and “fit” their engineering to that. Although, ever since Lambo was bought by Audi, they are becoming increasingly focused on engineering and performance, and have been more modest in their design approach. Of course, they are still unbelievable to look at, but consider what Lamborghinis look like now, and think about the earlier Lambos like the Diablo and Countach. Those were like from another planet!

    I don’t think they are still making the Stutz Bearcat, although I’m sure there are companies that are making replicas of them. And haha, thank G-d the Yugo is no longer with us! That has got to be one of the worst cars ever.

    Some news for today: Ferrari has just unveiled their new F12 Berlinetta. It is their fastest ever road car. It has a V12 lifted from the 599 GTB, which will produce around 730 bhp. That is A LOT. Top speed of 211 mph. It will obviously be competing with the Aventador. And I have to say, they both look incredible.

    #897869
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    where has koenisegg disappeared to? did they go down with saab/gm

    #897870
    MiddlePath
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    Koenigsegg haven’t disappeared, they just haven’t come out with a new car in about a year. Their latest creation is the Agera R, which actually holds 6 speed records for a production car, one of them being highest top speed (268 mph). Since they’re such a small company, they will probably not come out with anything new for another year or so. They literally only sell around 30 cars a year, and cost an average of $1 million.

    I was sad when Saab went down, because I really liked their cars. Now, aside from Koenigsegg, Volvo is the only Swedish car maker. It’s funny, because Volvo and Koenigsegg are about as far apart as you can get in terms of design philosophy.

    #897871
    MiddlePath
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    So the Geneva Auto Show just began, and while there are a number of amazing cars worth noting, I just want to start off by acknowledging my possible favorite of the bunch: The new Gumpert Apollo Enraged. This car is truly staggering in every way: Power, looks, weight, and exclusivity. Only 3 will ever be made. 3! And while it is pretty much a spin off of the original Apollo with some modifications, that is a recipe worth keeping, because the original was insanely good. I especially like this car because it shows that German car makers aren’t always about precision engineering and no “wackiness”, because the Gumpert was born to be wacky.

    The Enraged will have a V8 twin-turbo engine that develops 780 bhp and 920 Nm of torque. Supposedly, the aerodynamics of this car coupled with its downforce and speed make it able to be driven upside down on the roof of a tunnel at 150 miles per hour. Not that anyone has tried it yet.

    #897872

    Nothing like turning the steering wheel with perfectly done fingernails! 😉

    As far as “different types,” sometimes I’ll get a design on my ring fingers (one or both), but that costs $1 extra per nail (for a $6 manicure, that’s a pretty significant markup) so I reserve it for special occasions.

    #897873
    MiddlePath
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    horcrux, thanks for your input!

    So I wanted to talk about the new electric sports sedan called the Karma, by a company called Fisker. It is a smart solution to the range problem in other electric cars, but I still think it fails to really be considered a plausible replacement for petrol cars. I don’t think the future is in electric/gas hybrid automobiles. I think it’s in hydrogen fuel cells. Honda, a few years ago, came out with a prototype called the Clarity. It is true genius, being powered by a hydrogen cell that transforms into usable energy. The brilliance of hydrogen is that it isn’t a finite source. It’s in the air. All we need is to mass produce the technology to pull the hydrogen molecules from the air, collect it in tanks, and store it safely. I think that is the real step forward.

    #897874
    MiddlePath
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    Unfortunately, I had a feeling the people at Shelby would do something ridiculous to celebrate 50 years of the Shelby Cobra name.. and they did, by releasing the limited edition Shelby 1000. It’s got 950 bhp. In a Mustang. Now that is what I call a disaster. Only 50 will be made, so it’ll be exclusive, and around 200,000 dollars each. But I think it’s a big, big mistake. I was hoping that for the 50th anniversary, they’d make a special edition Shelby that actually focused on HANDLING, not just power, because that was always their weak spot. And it seems they’ll continue to ignore that, although they did fiddle around a bit with the suspension. Power, they’ve been able to do quite well. I expect that the Shelby 1000 (which should really be called the 950) will be blindingly fast in a straight line, and yet continue to disappoint, in typical Shelby fashion, on the track. Oh well. At least it’ll look and sound good.

    #897875
    ChanieE
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    The Fisker Karma is gorgeous but, and I know I’m spoiled, I prefer cars that actually run …

    #897876
    MiddlePath
    Participant

    Chanie, I can understand that. Many people feel the same way. But yes, the Karma is stunning.

    #897877
    MiddlePath
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    Some car news:

    Carroll Shelby, the guy who turned Mustangs into fire-breathing monsters, passed away last week. He was a true icon in the motoring world, and I hope the guys at Shelby continue the tradition for the future.

    Happily, Pagani isn’t finished with the Zonda just yet. They’ve made a limited number of road versions of the Zonda R, called the Zonda 760 RS (760 horsepower), and, well, it’s insane. Insanely good, that is. Hope they continue with the Zonda body style, I’m not a big fan of the Huayra.

    This past week, I got to check out the Ferrari 430 Scuderia at a supercar showroom, and I must say, it is genuinely jaw-dropping. I tried out the paddle shifters, and they are simply amazing, much better than I thought they’d be. It was my first time in such a car, and it was incredible, though because the Scuderia is the track version, there was a roll cage and scaffolding all over the place which made it hard to get in to. But still very worth it. Also got to see a Maserati MC12, though I couldn’t go into it.

    #897878
    OneOfMany
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    As I neither like cars nor manicures, I move that this thread be declared hostile on the grounds that it is discriminatory toward galoshes enthusiasts. HaRUMPH.

    #897879
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    I prefer the compound lever type of nail clipper over the pliers type. Both are better than scissors.

    #897880
    MiddlePath
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    OOM, you do have a point there, although perhaps wearing galoshes can improve maneuverability of pedal usage while driving. It hasn’t been proven yet, but what the heck, why not put the two together.

    DY, sounds intriguing. I didn’t know there are different types of nail clippers.

    #897881
    MiddlePath
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    Hennessey, a small car tuning company, created last year a Veyron- challenging monster called the Venom. It was insanely powerful, yet undoubtedly lacked the quality found in other supercars in its power and price range. Now, they just took the Cadillac CTS-V (the closest American car to an M3, in my opinion) and somehow turned out 1,200 horsepower from a twin-turbo V8. More horsepower than just about anything on the road. A top speed of over 240 mph. In a Cadillac. I think this is a disaster waiting to happen. For a car to truly be able to achieve those numbers, and still be in one piece, you need the craftsmanship and quality of Bugatti. Not GM.

    #897882
    MiddlePath
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    McLaren just debuted their replacement for their iconic F1 at the Paris motor show… the P1. In terms of looks, I love the rear of the car as well as the side profile. But other than that, it kind of looks… confusing. I’m pretty sure that is due to the fact that it was shaped more by science and engineers rather than by designers. But at least we know it’ll be good. More than good, it’ll be incredible. I mean, the F1 was THE car of the century. And this has to live up to all that, bearing in mind that it is going against the Veyron, Koenigsegg Agera, Pagani, and a whole slew of other spectacular cars. I have faith though that the P1 will be a masterpiece, for the sole reason that it is a McLaren. No other car manufacturer has the pedigree for automotive excellence that McLaren has, not even Ferrari. And I’m looking forward to seeing it in a color other than orange.. black would be nice.

    Once on the subject of British automotive news, Jaguar came out with the new F-Type, and it really does look stunning. Perhaps it doesn’t have the elegance of the old E-Type, but it’s still amazing in its own right.

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