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    learning247
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    B.s.d
    Anyone have any advice/resources for a bochur from London who’s just left Yeshiva after many years of high level learning to pursue a career/apprenticeship? Would prefer to work for a Jewish individual/firm obviously in the current climate. Besides for teaching (doesn’t pay enough IMO), can’t seem to find anything promising. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated 🙏

    #2422390
    ujm
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    Would semiconductor engineering be of interest?

    #2422573
    Sam Klein
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    How about going into accounting? The course is not too long until your ready to enter the job as a professional accountant and doesn’t require college cause they have locations that give accounting courses

    #2422607
    commonsaychel
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    Lion Tamer, Alligator wrestler, Bronc rider, Sewer cleaner

    #2422650

    a little weird to ask this question after many years of learning?
    what was bochur’s original plan for gaining parnosah?
    According to Kiddushin, father needs to teach the son a craft. Presumably, as with other things, if the father, H’V, neglected this kid, this becomes his personal obligation upon bar mitzvah. Or at least upin reaching maseches Kiddushin if nobody told him before that.

    Anyway, I would suggest
    1) taking aptitude tests to see what kind of work you are more suitable
    2) taking online classes in things like computer programming, accounting, and see whether you are capable and interested. Most paying jobs do not “come up” if you have no skills. And jobs/business opportunities that come up without skills are often insecure (see same page in Kiddushin)

    #2422658
    peacebeuponus
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    Would any of the legal professions around the real estate sector be of interest to you? Conveyance Solicitor, Surveyor, Structural Engineer etc? Excel in those fields and learn Yiddish… Chasidim will always pay well and always in cash.

    #2422679
    Bayit Beitar
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    be a plumber- almost everything else soon will be replaced by chat GPT. Avoda Nekiyah

    #2422722
    Just Visiting
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    Agudah PCS (you can google that) has online courses and follow help with job placement.

    #2423120
    ZSK
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    Trades. They pay well and will always be in demand.

    #2423390
    ujm
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    וואַסער־טראָגער און בעל־עגולה

    #2423429
    learning247
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    Thanks for everyone’s answers!

    @Always_Ask_Questions
    Thank you as well for your answer. Question, if said father didn’t teach his kid a craft before 13, how exactly should a 13 year old (or even a bit older) teach himself a craft? Or am I misunderstanding you?

    #2423430
    learning247
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    @Bayit Beitar interesting answer. How do you call plumbing Avoda Nekiyah though 🤔

    #2423531

    while manual work might be a good idea in general and qualifies as “umanut” recommended by the Gemorah – but are most yeshiva students prepared for this type of work? maybe because they were plumbing the depth of the Torah? Depending on how you were learning, an accountant or a college professor of English might be a better match to the skills.

    #2424125
    ZSK
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    To the OP: assuming you do not have any post-hight school education, quite frankly, you’re not qualified for anything beyond being an administrative assistant.

    I suggest trades because despite them not being “avoda nekiya”, they are always in demand and you’ll always have some income. Plumbers and electricians are always in demand with master level certifications earning 5-6 figures per year easily. Welding, despite being on the more dangerous side, is very highly paid. There is nothing wrong with doing physical work and creating something thereform.

    Regardless, you should take a career assessment first in order to see where your skills and interests are.

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