Census 2020 and the frum community.
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November 21, 2020 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm #1921824commonsaychelParticipant
Election 2020 is finished, over, complete.
On to a new topic, the 2020 census will result in a new power shift on a National, State and Local level,
What do you think the ramifications of power shifts will be to the Jews in general and the community in particularNovember 22, 2020 1:37 am at 1:37 am #1921845ujmParticipant
Blue states like California and New York will be losing congressional representation and electoral college votes while red states will be gaining.
That’s good for America and good for the Jews.
As a bonus, President Trump will be submitting to Congress final census figures that will exclude and deduct illegal aliens from counting towards congressional apportionment.November 22, 2020 9:00 am at 9:00 am #1921943CTLAWYERParticipant
How little you know and the falsehoods you post.
#1 You have no idea if seats will be taken from NY and California and gained by ‘red’ states. NY, New England, California finished the actual census count by the October deadline, The deep south, midwest, southwest ‘red’ states were at about 70% counted when all counting had to end.
#2 Taking Congressional seats away from the states in which they live s NOT good for the Jews. It will deprive them of Federal dollars for infrastructure, medicaid, education, etc.
Trump will NOT be submitting the final Census figures to Congress, as the Bureau of the Census announced the numbers will not be ready this year. President to be Biden will be submitting the final Census numbers in 2021.
#4 No person in the USA may legally be excluded from the count. The Constitution charges a count of all persons in the country every ten years. There is no qualification as to citizenship or residency status. The 2020 Census did not ask those questions.
#5 Census employees may not release information about individuals to anyone including other government agencies, They swear such an oath upon employment. The penalty is up to a $250,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment in each instance. the oath is applicable until death.
The Census questionnaire did not ask citizenship or residency status, so that information cannot be transmitted to Trump.
#6 The charge in the Constitution is to count persons. PERIOD. All the other information is not required. Census Enumerators were trained that if a respondent was hesitant, let them just give a population count: 123 Main Street apt 2, 3 persons suffices, if they can obtain names, gender, ages, fine, if not it meets the requirement for a completed enumeration. \November 22, 2020 9:00 am at 9:00 am #1921946CTLAWYERParticipant
How do I know these details of the 2020 Census procedures.
3rd grandchild works as a Census Field Supervisor and conducted training sessions remotely from our offices. I could hear the sessions on speakerphone and he showed me materials and asked questions about how this ties in with the Constitutional charge to count persons in the country every 10 years.November 22, 2020 10:49 am at 10:49 am #1921958commonsaychelParticipant
@CTLawyer, it depends of what State is losing the representatives for example NY will likely lose at least one or two seat based on projections, if they combine Bowman and AOC into a fair fight primary district it would be a win win and I would gladly forgo any federal funding to get rid of one of them.
In the terms of support of Israel most the states projected to lose seats are from states that have the least support of Israel including your Senator Chris Murphy and shift to state where they support Israel, so no great loss.
As to the counting of illegals I don’t think it is so bad, a lot of them live in areas bordering the Frum areas, i.e. Lakewood in NJ, Spring Valley and Hillcrest in Rockland and the outskirt of Monroe in Orange it is a net benefit for the frum people, they get counted but can’t vote.
Lastly on a hyperlocal level there will be a shift in power to the frum in Rockland and Orange County NY and in Ocean County NJ because the amount of people who moved there and the growth KIH of the frum families.November 22, 2020 11:50 am at 11:50 am #1921991ujmParticipant
President Trump WILL be submitting the final official figures to Congress for reapportionment. This is fully within his control, as he will order the Census Bureau to have the figures on his desk before the end of December. Furthermore, it is statutorily required by federal law that the figures be submitted to Congress before the end of December, and as such the President is simply fulfilling the legal requirement to do so.
Additionally, the Census Bureau always has made estimations in its figures and will be doing so again now under President Trump to determine that numbers of illegal aliens counted and to exclude those illegal aliens for three purpose of the figures President Trump will be submitting to Congress for reapportionment.
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