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May 9, 2012 2:48 am at 2:48 am #603321NYBDMember
I noticed something peculiar the other day. There are no 1 gallon cartons of chalav yisrael milk!
It seems that every goyishe brand of milk has the “1 galloner”, as I like to call it, yet it is nowhere to be found in the heimishe milk distributors’ lineups?
Does anyone have an explanation for this?May 9, 2012 3:03 am at 3:03 am #873626
Chalav Yisrael milk, on average, spoils faster (mostly due to being smaller and less-lucrative operations). People probably would be scared to go through a whole gallon before it goes bad.May 9, 2012 3:09 am at 3:09 am #873628derszogerMember
What’s the difference? Just buy 2 half-gallon containers. Even if you found a CY gallon, it wouldn’t cost any less than 2 half gallon bottles.
I do see once in a blue moon Golden Flow gallon containers in a small number of Brooklyn groceries.May 9, 2012 3:13 am at 3:13 am #8736292qwertyParticipant
Actually recently Fresh & Healthy started selling in gallons. And other communities outside of NY always had gallons.May 9, 2012 3:35 am at 3:35 am #873630
Come on over to the Midwest! We have gallon containers here!!May 9, 2012 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #873631
Gotta second that. Here in the Midwest we have gallon containers of Lamer’s cholov yisroel milk.May 9, 2012 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #873632
“Even if you found a CY gallon, it wouldn’t cost any less than 2 half gallon bottles.”
Under normal rules of retailing, this is not true. Just look at the chalav stam prices. Also, look at the difference in pricing between quarts and half gallons. The unit pricing (per ounce, per quart, per pound, per piece) is always less when you buy larger quantity.
I suspect it is because the milk company, distributor and retailer can make more money selling two half gallons than selling a single gallon. Given the large size of families that consume chalav yisrael milk, kein yirbu, and the quantity of milk purchased, it is a lot of money for them to leave on the table.May 9, 2012 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm #873633
Yup – a third voice here from the midwest – I only buy gallon containers of Lamer’s. I’m really surprised you can’t find them in NY.
Sam2 – why would you think chalav yisroel spoils faster?May 9, 2012 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #873634
The gallon CY milk sold in the midwest costs twice the price of 2 half gallon containers, or it cost less (how much less?)May 9, 2012 11:27 pm at 11:27 pm #873635lovingandlivingMember
I’m not here for a lecture, but I do drink both CY and Stam. I do find that the CY tends to go bad faster.
B’H I’m not familiar with the specifics, but if someone is using WIC can they purchase any size container? Perhaps that is why the Jewish brands produce more of a specific size?May 10, 2012 12:08 am at 12:08 am #873636
Gefen: I thought this was Yadua. The reason probably is that they are smaller companies and can’t afford to make as absolutely high-quality a product as most major dairy farms.May 10, 2012 2:58 am at 2:58 am #873637
In the midwest you probably have cows in your backyards and you can fill up any size container you want. Here in bwookwyn, backyards aren’t big enough for cows, so we have to get whatever is in the store. Plus, we have to have it pasteurized- I’m not sure if you guys have heard of that yet.May 10, 2012 3:12 am at 3:12 am #873638
squeak: ha ha. Actually, I’m originally from NY and when I got engaged, my boss asked me if I’m really going to live in a hick town like Chicago. I had to explain that Chicago is a large city.
So squeak – come visit some time. We even have tall buildings here (wow), and shopping malls,zoos,parks, – you name it. Not bad for a little hick town.
Oh gotta go now – my cow is “moooing”.May 10, 2012 6:16 am at 6:16 am #873639
Yups our hick town is hosting the NATO summit. Everyone was told to bring their cows.May 10, 2012 11:56 am at 11:56 am #873640
What about singles?May 10, 2012 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm #873641
If you ever bought a gallon of CY milk — was the cost simply twice that of a half gallon container or was it less?May 10, 2012 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm #873642🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
When I was redt to a boy from Brooklyn he asked me if we are able to make a minyan for weekday davening and if there was someone to go to with shailos! I told him not to worry, my mom is always available for both.May 10, 2012 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm #873643
Right on postsemgirl: I’m bringing ole’ elsie the cow. hoo u bringin’? I’m gonna wear my overalls and straw hat too. (overall jumper that is, not pants -we are frum hicks after all)May 10, 2012 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #873644
Does a gallon of CY cost the same as 2 half gallons or less than 2 halfs?May 10, 2012 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #873645
“The reason probably is that they are smaller companies and can’t afford to make as absolutely high-quality a product as most major dairy farms.”
Is this a joke? Do you think the cows look to see if a heimishe yid is next to the milking machine and produce lower quality of milk?
Now, if you would have stated that the packaging is not as good, or the transport and storage was not as good, or the local retailer was not makpid to let the milk delivery sit out on the curb in the blazing sun for a few hours until he got around to putting in the fridge, OK, I can hear it.May 10, 2012 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #873646
syag – I was on a date and the guy asked me if I know what yoshon and cholov yisroel are since we probably don’t get it in Chicago. I said yeah and guess what we keep Shabbos as well. Srsly why did he agree to go out with me?
gefen – I was thinking of bringing Mrs. O’Leary’s cow but it was a big mess last time….May 10, 2012 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #873647
Apushta: That was all implied. I apologize if you read it otherwise. I meant the whole process, not the milking.May 10, 2012 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #873648
Why drink milk? Cow milk is for little cows, not for humans.May 10, 2012 3:39 pm at 3:39 pm #873649
TCG: Why drink milk? They’re all Treifos anyway.May 10, 2012 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #873650
Sam, if they’re all treifos, why does Rav Schachter give it his hasgacha?May 10, 2012 5:48 pm at 5:48 pm #873651
Shmoel: You need to ask him. He definitely doesn’t eat any dairy products himself.May 10, 2012 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #873652
postsemgirl -yeah – it’s a good thing you didn’t bring that cow to the bon fire last night.
so, um.. do i know you? after all, there can’t be that many ppl here in chicago – especially Jewish ppl – and oh especially frum ppl. 😉
I guess that guy went out with you just to see what a religous girl from “out of town” is like. Such a rarity!May 10, 2012 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #873653
He said he gives hashgocha for baby cows.May 10, 2012 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #873654
Does a gallon of CY milk in Chicago cost the same as 2 half gallons or is it less?May 13, 2012 4:56 am at 4:56 am #873655
If I’m correct, a whole gallon is $5.89 and half gallon is approx. $2.89May 13, 2012 5:09 am at 5:09 am #873656derszogerMember
Then it is actually less expensive to buy 2 half gallons than to purchase a gallon container!! What’s the point.May 13, 2012 6:17 am at 6:17 am #873657
anyone wanna buy my horse and buggy??May 13, 2012 11:53 am at 11:53 am #873658
“He said he gives hashgocha for baby cows.”
On their meat. Baby cows do not produce milk. 🙂May 13, 2012 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm #873659🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
Does it come with the plates?May 13, 2012 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm #873660
apy, that’s OK, I’m used to being misunderstoodMay 13, 2012 2:56 pm at 2:56 pm #873661
In Jewel gallons are 5.49 and half gallons are 2.89. In Kol Tov the Gallon are 5.59 and halfs are 2.99May 13, 2012 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #873662
midwesterner: thanks for the actual prices.
derszoger: in my post i said “if i’m correct”. apparently i wasn’t. see midwesterner’s post.May 13, 2012 4:03 pm at 4:03 pm #873663
depends which plates?May 13, 2012 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #873664
sem20- someone has been trying to get hold of you. we thought you fell off the planet. do you check ur texts?May 13, 2012 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #873665
His car’s still here. You just gotta know where to look!!May 13, 2012 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #873666
I got that someone’s email, will get back to that someone today 🙂May 13, 2012 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #873667
On a serious note. The OU appears on hundreds if not thousands of items that contain cow milk. Does Rav Shachter disagree with the hechsher despite the fact that he is one of its poskim? Is this a situation where the OU applies its “2 out of 3” rule?May 13, 2012 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm #873668student of lifeMember
Slightly unrelated, but can anyone help my ignorance on American hechsherim – is Kof-K Dairy cholov yisrael or not? Thanks!May 13, 2012 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #873669yitayningwutParticipant
sol – it isn’t (unless otherwise specified on the packaging)May 13, 2012 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #873670
Kof-K Dairy is like OU-D. Non-CY.May 13, 2012 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #873671
Apushata: I don’t know. Rav Schachter might let them assume he’s wrong for dairy Hechsherim. He definitely wouldn’t eat them himself though.May 13, 2012 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #873672student of lifeMember
yitayningwut, shmoel, Thank you kindly.May 14, 2012 12:54 am at 12:54 am #873673
I was able to hear the music from the bon fire at my house so I didn’t bother showing up till it was almost all over. Sorry gefen for not responding till now.
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