Charedim learning from Islamists

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    lakewhut
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    It doesn’t make platforms like this but lately there have been assaults carried out by charedim to other Jews. No Gedolim are calling it out. At least it isn’t reaching the charedi media.

    #2582610
    doom777
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    charedim are a persecuted minority under a hostile zionist state, and street violence is one of the few avenues that they can reassert their power and protect themselves. I support these attacks.

    #2582834
    ujm
    Participant

    lakegoy: You showed the Gedolim. You should fire them. As you said above in your OP, you know better than them. You should declare yourself the Godol Hador and tell the current Gedolim they are no longer needed, as you are taking over.

    #2582888
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    Over the past 5 years, this web site, YWN News,
    has reported 4 or 5 times that Chareidim have
    physically attacked both male & female IDF soldiers.

    If you search this web site long enough,
    you should be able to find those articles.

    I will not search for those articles now,
    because I do not have the time or the patience.
    Sorry about that.

    #2582908
    akuperma
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    There are only a handful of Chareidim who are ready to take up arms against the Zionists (typically by helping the Palestinians or Iranians). The may change if they move to mass incarceration (de facto concentration camps), and when they start rounding up frum girls or removing children of frum parents “in the best interests of the child”. It seems that much of the Israeli establishment really wants to make Neturei Karta into a real political force, rather than a minor side show.

    #2583108

    doom, akuperman, “charedim” responding violently as well as “bnei Torah” blocking roads are oxymorons. Please do not use holy notions of people who are trembling in front of Hashem and learning Torah kedusha to describe these people.

    You can hold your opinions and conduct political events, you have your democratic rights to demand whatever you are able to achieve, just please don’t drug Torah into your politics. At least for the sake of less-observant Israelis for whom your behavior is a stumbling block on the way to teshuva.

    #2583184
    lakewhut
    Participant

    The violence isn’t only to protest arrests or drafts they are attacking Rabbonim and recently they protested a belzer chossid who passed away during the shiva for him.

    #2583390
    GadolHadofi
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    dumm000.

    Of course you support “these attacks” since you’re an ignorant, violent animal and don’t care that the Gedolim are against charedim lowering themselves to the level of lefty secularists.

    How often do you beat your wife and children to satisfy your depraved needs?

    #2583463

    when my rav was learning in Mir, he asked his US rav whether he should join demonstrations with other students. Answer: go when you see rosh yeshiva going himself, otherwise, sitz and learn.

    #2588731
    KGN
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    If there’s any group of Einei Yehudim we should be learning from, it’s the Israeli Druze. They figured out, ages before you guys, how to be accepted by a system where your beliefs are a minority. How? By not going against that society’s existence. Dogmatic Islamists don’t believe other people should exist. Haredim act that the same way sometimes. Maybe learn from a nation that has actual success.

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