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August 7, 2011 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #1043941Abe CohenParticipant
How does a non-Litvak become Litvish? Start pronouncing things like “Teyreh”? Get a Lithuanian passport?August 7, 2011 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1043942
Yaffo80: Chasidim have a tradition of turning Litvaks into Chasidim, w/o feeling any remorse for the anguish they bring on the Litvak’s family.August 7, 2011 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #1043943
LMA, I know of no such tradition.August 7, 2011 8:35 pm at 8:35 pm #1043944
Shilishi: Go review Chasidish history. How do you think a majority of Eastern European Jewry turned Chasidish?August 7, 2011 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #1043945
I don’t know what happened 200 years ago, but in the last 100 years what you said certainly hasn’t applied. (And even before that there was no recruitment of frum Litvaks.)August 7, 2011 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #1043946
There was mass recruitment 200 years ago. And even today Chabad actively recruites Litvish Yeshiva boys.August 7, 2011 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #1043947
Hundreds of years ago there was recruitment of the OTD to become frum via Chasidus. There was no recruitment of the already frum to become Chasidish. That being said, many frum people became Chasidush on their own volition, without having been recruited.
(As far as Lubavitch today I don’t know, but I am speaking of mainstream Chasidus anyways.)August 7, 2011 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #1043948
Shilishi: Are you Chasidish? There was very few OTD back then. The vast majority of Eastern Europian Jewry were Frum Litvish before the Chasidish movement sweeped through Eastern Europe. Yes, many Litvish families became Chasidim on their own initative; but there were many who were recruited. Do you know the story of R’Leibele Eiger?August 7, 2011 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #1043949metrodriverMember
shlishi; There were native Chasidic dynasties in the “Lite” (Litte). Of which there are very few left today. Such as “Kaidenov”, Slonim and Lechovitch. Today, however. As people of different groups live close to each other, the distinctions are slowly getting blurred. And the old rivalries being forgotten. Sadly, though, (Maybe, it should not be mentioned in the 9 days.) some people on the “Misnagdish” side, still retain a form of prejudice against “Chassidim”. (That’s my personal observation. MD.)August 7, 2011 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm #1043950
No, I’m not. But what does that have to do with anything. Are you a non-Chasid? Then you are no more qualified to comment than a Chasid. And most of Eastern Europe was not “Litvish” before Chasidus came around. If you want to say they were more like “Oberlander” we can talk, but they certainly weren’t “Litvish”. And they weren’t recruited. Yes, I know. R’ Leibele Eiger didn’t become Chasidush due to any recruitment.November 20, 2014 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #1043951IshPashutMember
Being a chossid isn’t about what minhagim you keep or how you dress. Sadly in this day and age there are many who think being a chossid is their appearance and they put a lot of work into such. Meanwhile puting down others not as strict or who dress differently than them. Perhaps the same divide that existed between the scholars and simple people in Europe is the divide between levels of religious observance and perception of religious observance today? While there may be benefits to these minhagim and these modes of dress they do not actually express chassidus at all. Chassidus is something which must be learned and absorbed into ones character traits. Chassidus is taking the teachings from the Rebbe and like the baal shem tov who wrote in the letter we have from him… yafutzu m’yanois chutza which will bring moshiach. So to answer your question as to how will their children turn out? That depends on the parents decision as to what type of education they will receive and upon the child as he/she grows older as to how they will liver their lifeNovember 23, 2014 5:50 am at 5:50 am #1043952
mazel tov:)November 24, 2014 1:34 am at 1:34 am #1043953wannabechasidishMember
I’m litvish hand wanna marry/become chasidishNovember 24, 2014 1:34 am at 1:34 am #1043954
i dont wanna b chasidih im yeshivish enough:)November 24, 2014 1:42 am at 1:42 am #1043955
What makes you litvish? Why do you wanna be chasidish?November 24, 2014 2:16 am at 2:16 am #1043956RandomexMember
I thought of you when I saw the title…November 24, 2014 2:36 am at 2:36 am #1043957
@wannabechassidish be my guestNovember 24, 2014 3:10 am at 3:10 am #1043958RandomexMember
So you’ll shave for her, if she is able to tolerate you?
(Or maybe you’re clean-shaven already?)November 24, 2014 3:30 am at 3:30 am #1043959
i said i dont wanna b chasidish lolNovember 24, 2014 4:23 am at 4:23 am #1043960
We weren’t talking to youNovember 24, 2014 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm #1043961
I’m not clean clean shaven no but i didn’t mean me specificallyNovember 24, 2014 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #1043962
I didn’t mean me spefically I just meant it in a welcoming wayNovember 24, 2014 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #1043963
He’s the welcome wagon for chasidish nkNovember 24, 2014 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #1043964
ExactlyNovember 24, 2014 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #1043965
One question why would a lady want to become chassidish?November 24, 2014 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #1043966👑RebYidd23Participant
BOne answer because she wants to be chassidish and to be chassidish one must become chassidish.November 24, 2014 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1043967
For men it’s good for women I don’t really knowNovember 24, 2014 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm #1043968tzviki16Member
chassidus is nice for everyone. you don’t have to be chassidish to gain from chassidus.November 24, 2014 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm #1043969wannabechasidishMember
i like a lot of things about chassidish, but also i dont like some things, like men not being able to shave for example.November 24, 2014 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm #1043970
That’s trueNovember 25, 2014 3:27 am at 3:27 am #1043971
i agree men should be able to shave and not have to shave their whole head off i was becoming chasidish and starting to do everything chasidish and wanted to marry a chasidish guy and guess where that led me to almost going otd so i think ill be yeshivish for right now:) and listening to not jewish music is okay for me because of i dont want to become overly frum and almost go otd so no thanksNovember 25, 2014 3:48 am at 3:48 am #1043972
You can always marry one of the new modern chassidim from boro park that barely have any beardNovember 25, 2014 3:57 am at 3:57 am #1043973
voos epes – no thank you i think ill stick the yeshivish peopleNovember 25, 2014 4:07 am at 4:07 am #1043974
What does becoming chassidish have to do with you going otd?November 25, 2014 4:11 am at 4:11 am #1043975
it was too frum for meNovember 25, 2014 4:17 am at 4:17 am #1043976
No such a thing as to frumNovember 25, 2014 4:45 am at 4:45 am #1043977
well for me their is and for many others there is as wellNovember 25, 2014 4:53 am at 4:53 am #1043978
To each there ownNovember 25, 2014 6:11 am at 6:11 am #1043979
yep:)November 25, 2014 3:09 pm at 3:09 pm #1043980
We agree on one point at leastNovember 25, 2014 4:19 pm at 4:19 pm #1043981theprof1Participant
I have 2 sons who are full clothed chasidim. My family is chasidish on all sides. Both these sons married Litvish family girls. BH the girls took on our chasidish minhagim because that’s the halacha.November 25, 2014 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #1043982
That’s niceNovember 25, 2014 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #1043983Shopping613 🌠Participant
I too wouldn’t mind marrying chassidish…November 25, 2014 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #1043985Letakein GirlParticipant
Brief Grammar lesson-
“They’re” is used as a shorter version of “they are.”
“Their” is used when talking about something they own are something like that.
They’re obviously bored! They’re tapping their feet, curling their peyos, and their eyes are roaming through the room.
(Lol that last part about their eyes roaming brought to mind an image of a pair of eyeballs strolling throughout the room.)November 26, 2014 5:23 am at 5:23 am #1043986ExcellenceParticipant
This topic question doesn’t make sense.
Ashkanazi, sephardi, chabad — same ocean, different boat.
I know a nearby place that has all three shules in one building.
I have seen charedi ashkanazis impressed with some chassidic rebbe’s Torah discourses they read.
The ashkanazi vs sephardi and ashkanazi vs chabad is old cobweb from our parent’s and grandparent’s days. Kids today don’t give a garden of fig trees what you are.
I know plenty of sephardi/ashkanazi couples. Chabad/ger tzedek couples. etc
It traditionally goes by the husband – women only do a fraction of the requirements men do. What does it matter if they have a sephardi accent from india if their husband and kids went to a chabad school?
And finally, it doesn’t matter what you are. If both parents are sephardi and the only proper religious school is a chabad one —> your children will grow up chabad. It’s what school they go to, what fridnds they hang out with.November 26, 2014 6:17 am at 6:17 am #1043987
doesnt matter which minhag you follow as long as you do Hashem’s mitzvos:)November 26, 2014 6:33 am at 6:33 am #1043988
@shopping613 I guess I’m in high demand 😉November 26, 2014 2:56 pm at 2:56 pm #1043989Shopping613 🌠Participant
I wouldn’t mind marrying sefardi either (GASP!)
Wonder what color skin my kids would have…November 26, 2014 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #1043992
it doesnt matter which minhag we follow were still all jews:) were all one nation:)November 26, 2014 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #1043993
I guess your very open minded then
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