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    i fooled you guys you probably thought this thread was another thread debating my gender, how many screennames i have, or whether i have feelings or not. ITS NOT

    i think this chiyuv is the most important chiyuv in yiddishkeit. it comes over lulav and esrog. what do you think??

    #1062802

    gavra_at_work
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    chayav inish livisumay

    One Tipsy Poster.

    #1062803

    yup thats name

    #1062804

    ✡onegoal™
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    Gavra, What more can be said?

    #1062805

    ☕️coffee addict
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    Oy Chayav,

    what about dying Al Kiddush Hashem?

    :p> mbachur <d:

    #1062806

    shuli
    Participant

    whatever…

    #1062807

    popa_bar_abba
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    Presumably, you get a mitzva for every drink you drink on purim which helps you get drunk.

    Therefore, it is commendable to drink during the year, and especially during the lead up to purim, in order to increase your tolerance so that you are able to do more mitzvos on purim.

    #1062808

    therealNAG
    Member

    absolutely

    #1062809

    twisted
    Participant

    On the maamar chazal, not on the poster; Warning–long

    A friend sent me a beautiful piece on purim kattan bshem rav Shor, besham Chidushei HaRim. In the time of the Besht, there was a terrible gezera against the community, and they fasted, and davened, engaged in Mizvos with fervor, but the decree remained. The Besht then sent a messenger to fetch a certain drunkard from afar, with instructions that he should not drink on the way to the Besht. When the drunkard was brought before him sober, the Besht asked him for a bracha to abolish the gezera. The drunkard gave the bracha, and the gezera was lifted. When the Besht’s disciples asked what was the segula of the drunkard, the Besht told the following. The man had performed the great mitzvah of Pidyon shvuyim, at great cost and danger to save a certain girl. His reward from shamayim was the power to bless at random, and his blessings would bear fruit, but in the heavenly court it was argued that such a simple person could use this power for the wrong reasons. It was therefor decreed that he would have this power, but would live as a drunkard not knowing night from day, and so the gift would not be abused.

    On Purim, there is the halacha, kol haposhet yad, nosnim lo, and this is true in tefilla as well, the tefilos of Purim have awesome powers, and can be uses for the wrong thing, so therefor, we are commanded to be drunk, and so not to abuse the tefilah. Now there is also statement that there is no difference between Purim and Purim katan but Megilah, matanos and seudah, meaning the power of tefilah is the same, without the handicap of chayiv ish levesumei.

    I was disappointed to get this message after purim katan, but I took comfort in the knowledge that chayav ish, is not davka all day long. One generally davens Purim morning with a clear head, and perhaps davens mincha before the seudah, and personally I try to be not so incapacitated as to be patur from ma’ariv. Shavua tov, and a safe happy run up to Purim!

    #1062810

    Shticky Guy
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    We werent fooled at all. We all know that this chiyuv doesnt apply to you and thats why you crave it so much and speak about it so often. Cos chazal said chayav INISH livsumai, so it doesnt include Bubbys

    #1062811

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Shticky,

    Women Have the same mitzvos asd men in regard to Purim (Af Hein Hayu B’Oso Haneis) they just shouldn’t get drunk b/c its not tzniusdik

    :p> mbachur <d:

    #1062812

    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    mbachur,

    Remember, Esther gave Haman to drink, but didn’t drink, herself. Imagine how things would have gone had she been drunk, too.

    #1062813

    mbachur thanx for sticking up for me.

    i also heard a heter that if you r a bubby that pretends to be a guy sometimes its mutar

    #1062814

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Shhhhhh Chayav!

    and anyway, that’s only when you pretend to be a guy, then you can pretend to be drunk

    :p> mbachur <d:

    #1062815

    or make people think ur pretending and really get drunk

    #1062816

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    well, that depends on how well you can hold alcohol 😉

    :p> mbachur <d:

    #1062817

    mbachur why do you and yossi sign the same way??

    #1062818

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    lol

    no mbachur=yossi z please!

    read his post signed and you’ll get it

    #1062819

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    oops and i FORGOT TO SIGN

    :p> mbachur <d:

    #1062820

    commonsense
    Participant

    please remember stories that happened on recent purims when you drink, I know you boys and some men are very machmir on this mitzvah but don’t do it to the point that it is the last mitzvah you get to do!

    #1062821

    Shticky Guy
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    Hey chayav, you’ve been kinda quiet recently. I would have thought that this is your time of year and we’d be seeing much more of you than usual now that its Adar. Hmmm. There was this thread recently called chayav=eclipse, wasnt there. Hmmm! (well, there’s nothing like stirring things up is there?)

    #1062822

    smartcookie
    Member

    Hey I realized too!

    #1062823

    ZeesKite
    Participant

    Wondering, how does one do this mitzvah with kavana?? Don’t all mitzvohs have to be with kavana?

    #1062824

    Shticky Guy
    Participant

    This is done with kavanah also. You cant get drunk without picking up alcohol while sober and deciding to drink more than you can usually handle. Unless you’re following the maxim that chayav lives by: “avoid hangovers; stay drunk”!

    #1062825

    ZeesKite
    Participant

    Is the mitzvah to drink or be drunk? Sorry if I sound like a lamdan.

    #1062826

    apushatayid
    Participant

    Livisumay. Do you use a shpritz of scotch or bourbon for this mitzvah? If you smell like barf, are you yotze?

    #1062827

    yunger mann
    Member

    Both, your chayiv “Levisumei” on till “Ad dilo yoda”.

    #1062828

    smartcookie
    Member

    Yunger mann- are you the new Chayav?

    #1062829

    apushatayid
    Participant

    Livisumei is the aramaic word to drink? get drunk? please explain.

    “on till”. I certainly cant compete with THIS lomdus.

    #1062831

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Presumably, you get a mitzva for every drink you drink on purim which helps you get drunk.

    Therefore, it is commendable to drink during the year, and especially during the lead up to purim, in order to increase your tolerance so that you are able to do more mitzvos on purim.

    Chap arein, only a few hours left…

    #1062832

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    wow thread post brings back memories

    #1062833

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    oops, i meant thread, not post

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