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    flatbusher
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    The Spartan Gym on Coney Island Ave in Flatbush has a special of annual membership $175. Not a modern place but it gets the job done. Few if any women in early morning. Today there were none; most mornings there are none.

    #1186849

    Joseph
    Participant

    You keep away when any women are there?

    #1186850

    flatbusher
    Participant

    usually on a different floor

    #1186851

    Joseph
    Participant

    And if they’re on your floor or both floors?

    #1186852

    flatbusher
    Participant

    Hasn’t happened. There are days that go by when there are no women at all and usually it’s one using a treadmill near the front dressed no differently from anyone walking in the street

    #1186853

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    “dressed no differently from anyone walking in the street”

    That doesn’t sound so good…

    #1186854

    flatbusher
    Participant

    It means the women wear pants and blouses, long sleeve in this weather.

    #1186855

    flatbusher
    Participant

    There are other frum guys there of various stripes, including one yeshivishe looking one.

    #1186856

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    “There are other frum guys there of various stripes, including one yeshivishe looking one.”

    That fact should not be used to determine whether or not it’s okay. I’m not poskening or judging whether or not it is since you didn’t ask my opinion and since I’m not qualified to posken on the matter and since I have no idea; I am simply pointing out that that should not be a factor in the decision.

    To quote someone I know, “There’s plenty of room in Gehinnom for everyone.” (again, I am not poskening or passing judgment on this issue – simply pointing out that the fact that others do it doesn’t necessarily make it okay.)

    #1186857

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    I thought I had deleted that. I meant to.

    #1186858

    flatbusher
    Participant

    lilmod: Yes I am sure. But holier than thou people should be careful what they say and where they say it.

    #1186859

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    flatbusher – If you’re referring to me, I wasn’t being holier than thou. I made it clear that I wasn’t judging – I was simply commenting on the fact that you mentioned that there were Yeshivish looking people there as though that is a “ra’aya” that it is okay (I then realized that might not have been what you meant, which is why I tried to delete it.)

    #1186860

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    But I apologize if you thought I was even though I thought it was clear that I wasn’t.

    #1186861

    huju
    Participant

    I knew a guy named Cheap Jim – never picked up a check.

    #1186862

    flatbusher
    Participant

    my comment was not that it should make it more kosher, just that you would be in company with other frum people (albeit few and just at the time when I attend). When you make a comment about room in gehennom, it sounds like you’re making a judgment.

    #1186863

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    flatbusher – You sounded like you were insulted by what I wrote, and I’ve been racking my brains to figure out why. I think I finally “chapped”. When I made that comment about Gehinnom, did you think I meant you chas v’shalom:?! Such a thing never occurred to me!!! I was referring to people who do something assur and think it’s okay because others do it. In your case, it never occurred to me that you were doing something “assur”!!! So it never occurred to me you would think I was talking about you!!!

    I was simply making the point that the fact that other people do things is not the reason it’s okay. I just took it for granted that you had asked a sheilah and/or knew it was totally “muttar”.

    Maybe it seems obvious that that is how my words would be taken, but it really hadn’t occurred to me in a million years (as one of the moderators pointed out previously, maybe I am a bit naive, Boruch Hashem!) In any case, if that is how you took it, I sincerely apologize!!! And I hope you are moichel. I would never have written it if I had had a “hava amina” that it would be taken that way!!!

    #1186864

    flatbusher
    Participant

    My reaction is based on the fact that your comment was similar to those of others when I posted months ago about mixed gyms. Often people make assumptions without really knowing the specifics. I go for health reasons, not to gawk at women, even if they were there. Of course I am mochel. Have a good yom tov.

    #1186865

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Flatbusher – thanks for being moichel. I didn’t know anything about others’ comments. I also happen to know of someone who was told that something similar was muttar (or at least not assur). I don’t know the specifics of his situation or the way his sheilah was asked (so I wouldn’t want anyone reading this to make assumptions regarding the permissibility of this) but I also had no reason to assume that it was definitely assur, and I had no reason to pass judgment and did not intend to do so. But I do feel bad if it sounded like I was doing so, and I appreciate your being moichel.

    Have a great Yom Tov!

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