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    Health
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    AP calls these Marathon bombers Chechen “Militants”.

    The Lib media is at it again – Chechnian “Terrorists”, Not “militants”!

    I was wondering why Putin offered the US help? – Now I know why – he must have had some Intel about the bombing either before or afterwards!

    #947655
    zahavasdad
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    The Chechins hate the Russians, In fact about 10-15 years ago the russians almost destroyed Grodzny because of the rebellion of the Chechins

    #947656
    TheGoq
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    The bombers Uncle is very adamant that they are not from Chechnya.

    #947657
    squeak
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    Chechen mah bah l’rabos? Shemaleh kol ha’aretz dassam.

    #947658
    zahavasdad
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    They are Ethnically Chenchen, but they were not from Chechniya. They were from nearby

    #947659

    They were borderline Chechnians and Dagestanis. Both are mostly Islamic places. Dagestan is still part of Russia, Chechnya a little bit less. (On Google Maps you’ll see Chechnya marked as a semi-separate part of Russia, while Dagestan is not). They were from Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan.

    Regarding Dagestan – search Wikipedia for “Shariat Jamaat”, says enough.

    These guys however seemed to be acting on their own. If it’s true the older brother was there for 6 months last year that does sound a bit suspicious, but even then, I agree with the general consensus that it is highly unlikely that the Caucasian Islamist terrorist groups would want to target the USA intentionally. They have enough problems with the Russians – they don’t need another enemy.

    Most likely these were just “lone wolf” terrorists, not affiliated with any group.

    I could be wrong, though.

    #947660
    charliehall
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    Why don’t we all wait a few days until the picture becomes clear. The family members are giving conflicting information.

    #947661
    kfb
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    They were Muslims and that’s all that counts. Religion of peace?? HA!

    #947662
    Wolfman
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    I’m waiting for one of the CR regulars to comment that the bombings in Boston were a response to Zionism!

    #947663
    Torah613Torah
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    Interesting. White, but Muslim. Unexpected.

    #947664
    WIY
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    Torah

    There is such a thing as white Muslims. Many Bosnians are white (European) Muslims there are other countries as well that have white Muslims although they are certainly a small minority of the world’s Muslim population.

    #947665
    Torah613Torah
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    WIY: I know. They are a small minority, so it’s unexpected. 🙂

    #947666
    Health
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    Wolfman -“I’m waiting for one of the CR regulars to comment that the bombings in Boston were a response to Zionism!”

    This might not have been the brothers’ intentions, but it could very well have been Hashem’s reason -it did happen on the Israeli Yom Hatzmout. Or it could be because Mass. is Pro-Toeiva and Toeiva marriage is legal there. The week that this occured in was Parshas Kedoshim.

    #947667
    rabbiofberlin
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    health: well your response to wolfman brings us really into bizarro world! But explain to me why ONLY things that are bad happen because of the evil zinsts but nothign good??

    #947668
    Wolfman
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    Rabbiofberlin, thank you for helping me out. It appears that we have prophets in our midst.

    To reiterate my point: On many posts, Muslim aggression is excused away as a response to Zionism. We are being told that Muslims are really peaceful folk and it’s only because of those pesky Zionists that they do violent things.

    #947669
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    It really wouldn’t be so far fetched to say that it was indirectly caused by Zionism. Arafat ym”s was the father of modern day terrorism.

    #947670
    Wolfman
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    Arafat was an thoroughly evil man. He used Zionism as an excuse just as Hitler used “lebensraum” as his excuse. By Hitler the real motivation was his war against the Jews. Ditto for Arafat. Hitlerian comparisons are generally unfair and inappropriate but most of us would agree that by Arafat it’s OK.

    Regarding the father of modern day terrorism: Arafat is up there but depending on how you define terrorism, he may not be the first. Robespierre from the French Revolution probably qualifies as an early proponent.

    Do a google search on The Muslim Brotherhood. This viciously anti-Semetic group was founded in 1928. Its founding principles do not seem to mention Zionism.

    #947671
    Health
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    ROB -“But explain to me why ONLY things that are bad happen because of the evil zinsts but nothign good??”

    And explain to me why the Zionists are trying to erase any good that they have done since the beginning of the State?

    The Status Quo was No Draft on the Bnei Torah, no public transportation on Shabbos, the Orthodox Rabbinate is in charge of marriage, divorce and conversions.

    So now come along the Zionists and are trying to uproot all these things and you expect me to believe that they are causing good things to happen in this world? I actually believe in the Torah, esp. the Tochacha, and I don’t believe the Torah writings is another fairy tale.

    #947672
    Health
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    Wolfman -“To reiterate my point: On many posts, Muslim aggression is excused away as a response to Zionism. We are being told that Muslims are really peaceful folk and it’s only because of those pesky Zionists that they do violent things.”

    You say “many” posts -find me one. I know I never excused Muslim violence, but most of the violence is a response to Zionist ideology. And find me one post where any Antizionist poster wrote “that Muslims are really peaceful folk”!

    #947673
    Health
    Participant

    Wolfman – Are you related to Wolfman Jack?

    “Do a google search on The Muslim Brotherhood. This viciously anti-Semetic group was founded in 1928. Its founding principles do not seem to mention Zionism.”

    I did -Now what? They started as a pro-Islamist group.

    And who says they are Antisemitic? If they are – it’s only because of Zionism -no other reason.

    #947674
    rt
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    as Rav Shlomo Brevda z’tl stated:

    “learning Torah- vadai

    davening- vadai

    reason why things happen- safek”

    I believe it’s safe to say there are no neviim in the CR

    #947675
    popa_bar_abba
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    I believe it’s safe to say there are no neviim in the CR

    I dunno about that.

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