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  • #599685
    bekitzur
    Participant

    Quite a few of my teachers have told me that I’m eligable to enter the chidon hatanach. I’m from a very frum Bais Yaakov (and family) so I cannot represent my school. I haven’t said anything to anyone. I wanted to know, what are your feelings on the topic?

    #814166
    erm_saywhat
    Member
    #814167

    What is chidon hatanach?

    #814168

    I just googled it. I would definitely stay away from it.

    #814169
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    I was in it as were several other very frum people…wonderful experience and learned a lot

    #814170
    aries2756
    Participant

    Shouldn’t you be proud of what you learned? And if your teachers are suggesting it knowing who you are and who you represent, why is it bad for you? If your teachers think you should, and it is something you would like to do, then why are you trying to find a negative in it rather than the positive in it? If you were the adult and it was your child what would you advise?

    #814171
    Toi
    Participant

    not for the right reasons. stay away.

    #814172
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    Go. Enjoy. The more visible shomrei mitzvos there, the bigger the kiddush Hashem.

    #814173
    twisted
    Participant

    Whats Tanach? Just kidding. I was a contestant in the national 40-somthig years ago, and there were GIRLS there, but that didn’t hit my radar because there were GIRLS in school too, a school with a sort of chareidi, very very zionist administration, doing the best they could with the circumstances outside Brooklyn. Would I send my kids (more likely grandkids)? No, they are measurably more chareidi than myself, and ccnsequently, they don’t know enough to compete, and the tanach my boys do know, is because they made it a project to learn by themselves.

    #814174
    Toi
    Participant

    its not a torahdik’ contest. its purely academic; id be embarassed to go.

    #814175
    ItcheSrulik
    Member

    twisted: What do you propose to do about that?

    #814176

    That’s because they focus on Gemorah more than Tanach. What’s wrong with that?

    #814177
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    Teach the boys Tanach! And bekiyus, meaning the names of the parshiyos in order, the dates of the yomim tovim, etc. It’s amazing what the kids are not taught nowadays.

    #814178
    Queen Bee
    Member

    First of all, congrats bekitzur on your eligibility and achievements. That’s impressive.

    Best of luck! If you choose not to participate, just be proud of your accomplishments.

    #814179
    bekitzur
    Participant

    I’m receiving very conflicting opinions.

    Am yisrael chai, there’s no way I could have been taught enough in school. It’s amazing what you can learn just by reading The Little Midrash Says, and similar books…

    And yes, my [older] brothers know what to do if two people are holding a tallis and claiming it’s theirs, but they don’t know what Potifar’s wife’s name was, or Og’s father’s name. (Randomly.)

    #814180
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    bekitzur

    What do YOU think about it? Would your parents support you either way?

    Kol hakavod that you learn on your own, and much hatzlacha no matter what you decide.

    #814181
    mak
    Member

    A brother of mine won in N.Y. many years ago and won a trip to EY to compete there. The program there was mixed and not at all the proper environment for a bas yisroel and especialy a bais yaakov girl.

    #814182
    bekitzur
    Participant

    Honestly? I hope they know what school I go to…

    They won’t care.

    #814183
    shlishi
    Member

    mak: If it’s a bad environment for a beis yaakov girl, it is also a bad environment for a yeshiva boy.

    #814184
    old man
    Participant

    Dear Bekitzur,

    Go for it. It will be a wonderful experience and will help you grow in every way. You will meet kids from all over the world and will appreciate that knowledge of our sifrei kodesh is the best uniter of all. Ali V’hatzlichi!

    #814185
    Toi
    Participant

    posters with first hand knowledge say that its spiritually not safe. what more is there to deliberate.

    #814186
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    Pardon me, toi, but I am a poster with first hand knowledge and don’t recall saying such a thing.

    I thought it was an absolutely wonderful experience.

    The first part is taking a test in your home area- I would have to imagine most people here have done that. So why not start off here and take it one day at a time.

    If your deliberation is what happens if Bekitzur wins and gets to travel to E”Y to take a test, what a gift! And spiritually uplifting! (She can go with an adult.)

    Her teachers who know her are advising her to participate.

    To me it’s a no-brainer.

    #814187
    shlishi
    Member

    How does travelling with an adult alleviate a spiritually inappropriate setting?

    Also, I’m not sure what teachers she is referring to (who said she is eligible not that they are advising it) since she said her beis yaakov wouldn’t allow it.

    #814188
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    Unless I missed, the ONE poster who participated said that her kids shouldn’t go as they didn’t learn enough to participate.

    The people here who say that it’s spiritually inappropriate are the ones who weren’t in it!

    How is learning spiritually inappropriate??? Or perhaps the HOLY LAND isn’t spiritual enough? Now how about LEARNING in the HOLY LAND???

    That’s SOOO spiritually uplifting.

    A great experience.

    #814189
    shlishi
    Member

    The people here who say that it’s spiritually inappropriate are the ones who weren’t in it!

    Uh, that’s because they were wise enough not to go. If you know it is a spiritual danger you don’t go to double-check. Nor do you need to go to Mass on Sunday to know that it is spiritually destructive.

    #814190
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    Uh, that’s not an argument.

    I went and it was SO the opposite of “spiritually destructive” and I hear no valid argument here why you claim it is…

    #814191
    shlishi
    Member

    Uh, young boys and girls mixing. I would keep away with a 10-foot pole.

    #814192
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    Uh, MIXING?? Sitting by your desk taking an exam?

    Ok then, I hope you don’t EVER go on a plane for all that MIXING.

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