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    mw13
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    A quick quote from Steven K. Bannon, executive chairman of the alt-right website Breitbart News Network, that Trump recently selected as his Chief Strategist:

    “…the biggest problem he had with Archer [School for Girls]

    #1194712
    lesschumras
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    If the only proof you have is the quote from a bitter wife in a divorce case ( a quote that he denies ) then you are truly a sad individual

    #1194713

    iran leaders are all way much bigger anti-semites

    #1194714
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Ben Shapiro hates his guts, but still says he does not have any evidence of him being an anti-Semite.

    #1194715
    popa_bar_abba
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    Breitbart is Jewish, and the purpose of starting the website was to report fairly about Israel. I’ve heard there are so many frum people working there that they have a mincha minyan.

    Now that Trump is president, we don’t have to care anymore about the baseless racism claims that the media makes against anyone they don’t like. Viva le revolucion!

    #1194716
    Avi K
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    #1194717
    Health
    Participant

    MW13 -“Chief Anti-Semite of the US”

    You liberal liers are all the same!

    If you would have been honest – you would have named J. Wright as chief!

    Ya’know, Obama’s pastor for 20 years.

    Here’s a quote from Wikipedia:

    “Wright stated in a June 10, 2009 interview that he had still voted for Obama for President, despite the controversy. He said that he had no regrets about any of his comments. He also alleged that “them Jews” within the Obama administration are preventing the two from speaking to each other. He also suggested that Obama did not send a delegation to the Durban Review Conference in Geneva because of Jewish pressure, saying: “[T]he Jewish vote, the A-I-P-A-C vote, that’s controlling him, that would not let him send representation to the Darfur Review Conference, that’s talking this craziness on this trip, cause they’re Zionists, they would not let him talk to someone who calls a spade what it is.”

    #1194718
    Joseph
    Participant

    The only two countries Breitbart has a foreign bureau in are England and Israel.

    #1194719
    2scents
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    YWN has a good clip of this in their news section, how Joel P bites into the CNN reporter and others about this.

    #1194720
    lakewhut
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    I’d take Bannon in the white house, over Podesta and Huma Abedin. And frankly, HRC.

    #1194721
    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    Here I thought the thread was about the woman who kissed Arafat’s wife.

    #1194722
    DaMoshe
    Participant

    If I had to choose a chief anti-semite, it would probably be Joseph.

    #1194723
    dovrosenbaum
    Participant

    Bannon Defenders:

    Shmuley Boteach

    Joel Pollak

    Ben Shapiro (absolved him of any charges of anti-semitism)

    Alan Dershowitz

    Zionist Organization of America

    Algemeiner Journal

    There are some Jews involved with the alt-right, notably Rabbi Mayer Schiller of New Square

    #1194724
    yichusdik
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    Hey, I’m still no fan of Trump, but from what I can tell most of what is being written about Bannon and his apparent anti-Semitism simply doesn’t stick. He may have other prejudices – he probably has – but to me he seems to be a smart opportunist who is leveraging anyone he can to advance a goal rather than a hateful ideologue.

    Fair warning, though. My political acumen is questionable these days, as I was way way off last week. Who really knows?

    #1194725
    mw13
    Participant

    With an ideology that’s a mix of racism, white nationalism and old-fashioned populism, the “alt-right” has burst into the collective consciousness since members showed up at the Republican National Convention to celebrate Trump’s nomination last summer.

    When one of its leaders, Richard Spencer, gave a speech in Washington last Saturday at an alt-right conference attended by a couple of hundred people, The Atlantic was there with a video camera that captured the Nazi-style salutes of people in his audience.

    “Hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory!” Spencer said to cheers that were shown in video snippets that have since been viewed hundreds of thousands of times online.

    What does Spencer mean by “our people”? Whites. Spencer directs the National Policy Institute, which describes itself as “dedicated to the heritage, identity and future of people of European descent in the United States and around the world.”

    It is Spencer who is widely credited with coming up with the term “alt-right,” or “alternative-right,” about eight years go.

    While members of the movement are getting more attention than ever, the head of the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism said Tuesday there is not much new in its message.

    “The hatred and bigotry that is at the core of alt-right ideology has not changed,” center director Oren Segal said in an interview conducted by private messaging. “What has changed is the name, their packaging and the stated belief that they have a champion in the highest office.”

    Richard Cohen, president of the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization that tracks hate groups, said the alt-right is “a rebranding of white nationalism.” Cohen called it “the energy behind the avalanche of racist and anti-Semitic harassment that plagued social media platforms for the entire presidential campaign.”

    Cohen’s comments came in a statement about Trump’s decision to fill his chief strategist slot with Steve Bannon, who formerly ran Breitbart News, a website popular with members of the alt-right. Indeed, much of the alt-right exists online only, for all practical purposes.

    While the Ku Klux Klan or neo-Nazis might have public rallies, people associated with the alt-right are more likely to spread their beliefs in online forums or on social media like Twitter. They tend more toward memes than marches; subjects can include criticism of Jews and claims that white Americans are under attack by minority groups.

    Trump aides and advisers have tried to distance him from the beliefs of the alt-right. In a meeting Tuesday with editors and reporters of The New York Times, Trump said of the alt-right: “I don’t want to energize the group, and I disavow the group.”

    But members of the alt-right, including Spencer, are vocal in their support of the Republican president-elect.

    In an interview with The Associated Press in Cleveland, where members of the alt-right obtained credentials to attend the Republican National Convention, Spencer painted himself and Trump as people who think alike.

    “Do you think it’s a coincidence that everybody like me loves Trump and supports him?” he said.

    #1194726
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    The mainstream media is suddenly giving these people air time to advance it’s liberal agenda and discredit Trump, who has repeatedly disavowed them, and has the most openly pro-Israel stance of any president (elect) I can recall.

    But the alt right claims he’s an anti-Semite, so it must be true.

    Right, mw13?

    #1194727
    Sam2
    Participant

    dovrosenbaum: Ben Shapiro did not say good things about Bannon. He said that he just didn’t witness any anti-semitism from him.

    And there are no alt-right Jews. By definition. The “alt-right” is a nice way of saying neo-Nazis. Any Jew who claims to be alt-right doesn’t understand what it is to be alt-right.

    #1194728
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Ben Shapiro did not say good things about Bannon. He said that he just didn’t witness any anti-semitism from him.

    Well, the issue being discussed is whether he’s an anti-Semite.

    The fact that a Jew who worked under him, and hates him, still says he never saw any anti-Semitism, seems to me to be a pretty good indication that he isn’t.

    #1194729
    mw13
    Participant

    DY:

    Trump is clearly not an anti-Semite. Not only that, but he has clearly denounced all of the various anti-Semites that (quite enthusiastically) support him.

    However, the launching of Trump’s Nationalist-Populist movement has both energized and popularized the “White Nationalism” movement of the “Alt-Right”, which is essentially just a repackaging of the ideology of the KKK and the Nazis. This “White Nationalism” has gone from being a fringe, marginalized movement to being a visible force with an increasing amount of adherents and influence. This is, to put it mildly, not something that we should be excited about…

    #1194730
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    If the liberal media wouldn’t focus on them, they would remain marginalized.

    #1194731
    Health
    Participant

    Mw13 -“However, the launching of Trump’s Nationalist-Populist movement has both energized and popularized the “White Nationalism” movement of the “Alt-Right””

    I find it much more disconcerting that Obama is behind the black lives matter movement! I think that – that organization is just a “repackaging” of the Black Panther’s movement!

    #1194732
    Sam2
    Participant

    DY: Not true. They are clearly more vocal now than they ever were before (at least since the 1930s). And membership is swelling. And that has nothing to do with the liberal media.

    Health: Why do you find it “much more disconcerting”? If you assume the situations are similar, it should be equally disconcerting. Finding Black Panthers “much more disconcerting” than Neo-Nazis and the KKK seems, well, misguided at absolute best.

    #1194733
    Health
    Participant

    Sam2 -“Health: Why do you find it “much more disconcerting”? If you assume the situations are similar, it should be equally disconcerting.”

    Because it’s Not equal! President-elect Trump and members of his family have been pressured by the liberal media to denounce the far- right groups. And they did!

    “Finding Black Panthers “much more disconcerting” than Neo-Nazis and the KKK seems, well, misguided at absolute best.”

    Stop misconstruing what I wrote! This is what I wrote:

    “I find it much more disconcerting that Obama…”

    The reason I wrote that – is because Obama openly supported the Black Panthers!

    From a conservative website:

    “On the 2008 Obama campaign website there was a profile on the radical group along with a picture of their symbol.

    The fact that our president would openly support this group in public, much less associate with them on a campaign website, is beyond comprehension.”

    #1194734
    mw13
    Participant

    As a Jew, I find the rise of the “White Nationalism” movement far more disconcerting than BLM for the simple reason that it is more of a threat to me, my family, and my community. Call that selfish if you want, but that’s the truth.

    (PS to Health! – as Abraham Lincoln famously said, don’t believe everything you read on the internet.)

    #1194735
    Sam2
    Participant

    Trump tweeted a photo that appeared on a major neo-Nazi website. He tweeted it, then defended his use of the “sheriff’s star” and wished it hadn’t been changed to a circle. I’m fine with calling out Obama for these things, but pretending like Trump hasn’t done worse in this area is just foolish.

    #1194736
    Health
    Participant

    Sam2 -“I’m fine with calling out Obama for these things, but pretending like Trump hasn’t done worse in this area is just foolish.”

    No, he hasn’t! You don’t even bother to read my post before you reply!

    Stop talking about what Trump should have done, and start talking about what Obama has actually done!

    Here it is again – in spite of your denial:

    “On the 2008 Obama campaign website (H/T moonbattery.com) there was a profile on the radical group along with a picture of their symbol.”

    #1194739
    yehudayona
    Participant

    Roger, that’s sarcastic, right?

    #1194740
    mw13
    Participant

    Obama is history – get over it.

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