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May 16, 2016 3:58 am at 3:58 am #1151835mw13Participant
…and BTW, the Rambam in Melachim u’Melchamos 7:4 does not specify that a Talmid Chacham is obligated to go to milchemes mitzva, only that those who are normally pattur from a milchemes reshus (such as a chosson, somebody who just bought a field, or somebody who’s just scared) are.
Therefore, this Rambam does not contradict the one in Hilchos Talmud Torah 6:10 that says that a Talmid Chacham is pattur from contributing towards the city’s defense, as does the Shulchan Oruch I quoted in the previous post (who adds that the reason is because their Torah protects).
May 16, 2016 5:35 am at 5:35 am #1151836Avi KParticipantMW, he says all go. All is all. As for the talmid chacham in Shulchan Aruch, that refers to someone who is on the level of Torato omanuto. No Internet, no newspapers, no radio, no chazzanut concerts, no talking about politics or the weather. Only learning (although some say that he can work in order to earn a subsistence income).
May 16, 2016 5:46 am at 5:46 am #1151837Avi KParticipantMoreover, that only applies to special defense measures that are the result of galut but not measures that kings normally take to protect their countries (Chatam Sofer Baba Batra 8a -“??? ??? ?? ????? ???? ??? ??? ????? ??? ??? ???? ?????… ??? ????? ???? ???????????? ??????? ????? – ?? ????? ??? ????”).
See “??? ?????? ????? ?????? ???????” by Rav Azriah Ariel footnote 3
May 16, 2016 11:46 am at 11:46 am #1151838mw13ParticipantAvi K, the Rambam says “all” to exclude all of the exceptions that he just listed (in that very Halacha) that apply to a milchemes reshus.
As for the talmid chacham in Shulchan Aruch, that refers to someone who is on the level of Torato omanuto. No Internet, no newspapers, no radio, no chazzanut concerts, no talking about politics or the weather. Only learning (although some say that he can work in order to earn a subsistence income).
True. But the Shulchan Oruch Y”D 246:18 paskens that learning Torah takes precedence over any mitzva that can be done by somebody else, and does not specify that this only applies to a Talmid Chacham.
May 16, 2016 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #1151839simcha613ParticipantWhat mitzvah can be done by someone else? If you’re talking about the army, each soldier makes the army as a whole stronger. I think it’s a stretch to say it can be done by someone else.
May 16, 2016 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #1151840JosephParticipantSimcha: The army has too many potential recruits without taking a single Ben Torah. The army will still have to reject people even if no one leaves the Yeshiva to go to the army.
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