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    Lightbrite
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    A thread for confusing children’s toys…

    I’ll start with the *Shocking Liar, Lie Detection Game* that actually gives children a shock if they lie.

    For children 14 and older.

    #1220445

    Meno
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    How is that confusing? Sounds pretty straight forward to me

    #1220446

    ywnposter
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    That sounds cool! Where can I get it?

    #1220447

    Lightbrite
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    Meno, is a shocking lie detector hand strap thing good chinuch even in the secular world?

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    catch yourself
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    ?? ?????, it should never be used for Chinuch.

    However, that’s not the point of it. Many children enjoy that sort of thing (think, “Shock-Gum”, “Shock Pen” and many other similar toys).

    It’s just something fun to play with, and I’m willing to bet that it is far from accurate as a lie detector.

    #1220449

    Here’s what’s confusing (from the maker’s website):

    Please carefully read the warnings before Instructions for use! This is a strange game of new models, not in the traditional sense of the toys! Not suitable for children under 14 years of age to play. Chance of the game have certain shock effect, and electronic devices such as pacemakers have certain interference, sudden illness with heart, epilepsy, and the like sudden illness or those who reacted strongly against electric shock do not play.

    #1220450

    Meno
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    You’d think for a serious warning like that they would get an English speaking person to proofread after translating from Chinese.

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    👑RebYidd23
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    Pajamas are often labeled as “not intended for use as sleepwear”.

    #1220452

    Lightbrite
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    How does everyone 14+ know if he/she have a strong reaction to a shock without being shocked in the first place?

    #1220453

    catch yourself
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    So it sounds like maybe not good parenting, but not in the Chinuch sense.

    #1220454

    Lightbrite
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    RebYidd23: Yes!

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    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    How does the toy know if they are lying? Is it a real “lie detector”? Are those things accurate?

    #1220456

    I think lie detectors look for stress, not falsehood, so

    people who have no problem with lying can get past them.

    As for this thing, I’m not sure it’s even meant to be reliable.

    #1220458

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    I also always wondered about people who are very insecure and get nervous that people will think they are lying even though they aren’t, or they themselves are scared they are lying even though they are not.

    Would the lie detector think they are lying even though they are not? I have always been afraid that I am the type of person whom a lie detector would suspect of lying even when I’m not. Good thing I never had to use one.

    #1220459

    👑RebYidd23
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    Lie detectors would mostly give a false positive if a person is afraid of a false positive.

    #1220460

    Lightbrite
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    Doesn’t this promote lying? If I was a kid I would prob try to master the test by coming up with lies.

    Once upon a time I didn’t even know the meaning of “lie”

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