January 1, 2019 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #1655215
Price? Health? Smell?January 1, 2019 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #1655455
Can we debate schnapps vs. beer instead?
It’s der tzelba zach. Nicotine is bad for you. Period.January 1, 2019 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #1655803nokia301Participant
They both have pros and cons for example smoking makes you feel way more refreshed can give you the boost you need etc. but others don’t like the smell and can be VERY pricy in some countries and may cause cancer. E-cig dose not feel anywhere as good but not yet proved dangerous and has high start price then stays relatively cheap for liquid and coils.January 1, 2019 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #1655897funnyboneParticipant
Cancer vs cancer? Both terrible ways to die.January 1, 2019 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #1655905
It’s not dangerous to use a nicotine-free e-cig (provided it has no other drugs either), but nicotine free cigarettes are dangerous.January 1, 2019 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #1655911
Funnybone there are practically 0 studies on ecigs giving cancer!!!!January 1, 2019 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #1655928
@Freddyfish The most popular E-Cig/vape brands contain nicotine by default. You actually have to go out of your way to find nicotine-free juice. The FDA classifies them as “ENDS” or “Electronic Nicotine Delivery System”. Nicotine has been linked to cancer and addiction. But if you want to vape the nicotine-free systems, gezunteh heit, but it’s pretty much the same as breathing in the smell of boiling a soft drink and there’s no studies as to whether or not it’s actually safe.January 1, 2019 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #1655942holy brotherParticipant
Brilliant! Let me ask you, does there exist second hand smoke with e-cig?
If not, why in the world can’t one use a ecig in public places?
Punchline: Anti smoking agenda – has become an agenda unrelated to health, and the ecig is definitive proof.
No matter what you cook up about e smoke, it’s for sure safer then real cigarettes, and MANY people stopped smoking in it’s merit. But the heartless agenda carries on – like most agenda’s, they end up soulless and unrelated to the original theme.
Smoking is not healthy, nobody thinks it is, but people that spew hatred, and meaningless grouching at smokers – are most probably endangering their health more.January 2, 2019 12:16 am at 12:16 am #1655961
@holybrother What are you on? There’s definitely second-hand smoke with ENDS. And no one cares that it’s safER. We are talking about whether or not it’s safe, period. You’re comparing heroin to fentanyl and stating that heroin is “better”. Since it took the government too long to catch on, a lot of people who would have otherwise never smoked a cigarette are now addicted to nicotine thanks to ENDS. It’s fine for smokers who want to quit, but on that note it’s no better or worse than a nicotine patch. But for the rest of the world it’s just as bad.January 2, 2019 12:29 am at 12:29 am #1655964YiddishVibesParticipant
They are both terrible for your healthJanuary 2, 2019 12:29 am at 12:29 am #1655963YiddishVibesParticipant
Both cigarettes and e cigs are bad for your health. End of discussion.January 2, 2019 8:14 am at 8:14 am #1656072
Yserbius123 there is definitely NOT second hand smoke with ends do ur research!!!!!January 2, 2019 10:34 am at 10:34 am #1656077TheGoqParticipant
Neither, Cigars ahh what a machaya!January 2, 2019 10:34 am at 10:34 am #1656087
Of course not. It’s second hand vapor.January 2, 2019 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #1656301
@FreddyFish (and Luther, who I assume is close by as always)
See the following:
- “Use of electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes) impairs indoor air quality and increases FeNO levels of e-cigarette consumers” by Wolfgang Schober 2014 from the “International Journal of Hygiene and Environmental Health”
- “5 Truths You Need To Know About Vaping”, Dr. Michael Joseph Blaha, Johns Hopkins Medicine
- Analysis of Secondhand E-Cigarette Emissions, RTI International (RTI.org)
B’kitzure, there’s little difference in inhaling vapors directly or second hand. Both are dangerous.January 2, 2019 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #1656333casperParticipant
There are not as many substantial studies on the effects of vaping as there are on cigarettes because e-cigs are a very new phenomenon. Please don’t confuse a lack of research on negative health effects with their lack of existence. I’m not saying that they’re for sure there, I’m just saying that until we get more studies we shouldn’t just assume that they are significantly safer for your health.January 2, 2019 3:29 pm at 3:29 pm #1656398
Yserbius123 can u show me some real studies!!!January 2, 2019 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #1656422
Casper, we can guess. Long before vaping, people have breathed in other vapors, and people have used nicotine in other ways.January 2, 2019 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm #1656557DayeinuParticipant
Nicotine doesn’t cause cancer!
To quote the American Cancer Society:
“It is the smoke from combustible tobacco products — not nicotine — that injures and kills millions of smokers.”
Of course vaping nicotine, glycerin and some flavors is far safer than smoking tar, carbon monoxide and 7,000+ chemicals from tobacco smoke.January 2, 2019 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #1656559DayeinuParticipant
UK Ministry of Health website:
“So far, there is no evidence that vaping causes harm to other people around you. The available evidence indicates that any risk of harm is extremely low, especially when compared with secondhand tobacco smoke.”January 2, 2019 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm #1656561
@Freddyfish What do you mean “real studies”? What’s wrong with what I posted?
Lommerzuggen: think about it for a minute. Why should there be a nafka mina on how a person ingests the nicotine, whether it’s from vaping directly or second hand?January 3, 2019 1:00 am at 1:00 am #1656622
Yserbius123 can you show me something from the department of health?!?!January 3, 2019 1:06 pm at 1:06 pm #1656831Not commentingParticipant
Cigarettes are much much better! You don’t smoke as much and they are way better feel!January 3, 2019 1:53 pm at 1:53 pm #1656898
If smoking less is your goal, how about not smoking, which is the least?January 3, 2019 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #1656931r cParticipant
The facts are tobbaco smoke has thousands of dangerous chemicals being inhaled with every puff. Ecigs have some trace amounts of toxic chemicals. the question is,is the tiny amount they do have enough to cause health problems.January 3, 2019 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #1656959
Nicotine is a harmful and addictive drug.
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