March 10, 2017 1:13 am at 1:13 am #619440srulie91Member
what are the best streets to collect in Lawrence?March 10, 2017 1:27 am at 1:27 am #1228610
The streets the rich people live on.March 10, 2017 1:28 am at 1:28 am #1228611
Unless you have a list of people to go to, it is not a good idea to go randomly collecting, you never know who will answer the door and some people might not be too happy you are thereMarch 10, 2017 1:32 am at 1:32 am #1228612
So they’re not too happy. Not everyone’s always happy anyways. Life goes on and you go to the next random Yid’s door.March 10, 2017 1:36 am at 1:36 am #1228613
Not everyone is a Yid and some peoples houses are more like fortsMarch 10, 2017 1:52 am at 1:52 am #1228614
Check for a mezuza.March 10, 2017 1:52 am at 1:52 am #1228615
like forts in what ways? As long as they don’t have dogs or guns, what could the problem be?March 10, 2017 2:03 am at 2:03 am #1228616
Alot of people there have either big fences or even walls around their property
I think there are also some private security
I dont live there so I cant say exactly, but just because there are very rich people there doesnt mean its easy pickensMarch 10, 2017 2:04 am at 2:04 am #1228617
Dress up as a police officer and they’ll open their door.March 10, 2017 2:26 am at 2:26 am #1228618LightbriteParticipant
Look for signs that say “No soliciting” and skip those houses.March 10, 2017 2:46 am at 2:46 am #1228619
Tzdekah collectors will ignore the “No soliciting signs”March 10, 2017 2:48 am at 2:48 am #1228620
Impersonating a police officer is a crimeMarch 10, 2017 2:53 am at 2:53 am #1228621LightbriteParticipant
Joseph: Or call the real police and then you can use your one phone call to telecollectMarch 10, 2017 5:32 am at 5:32 am #1228622yehudayonaParticipant
lesschumras: There are usually some little kids who dress as cops for Purim. I’d better call the cops so they can arrest them.March 10, 2017 8:14 am at 8:14 am #1228623
Impersonating and dressing up are two different things.March 10, 2017 10:14 am at 10:14 am #1228624takahmamashParticipant
Tzdekah collectors will ignore the “No soliciting signs”
Trespassing is a crime.March 10, 2017 11:11 am at 11:11 am #1228625from Long IslandParticipant
You need a letter of authorization from the Vaad of the 5 Towns. Otherwise, people will NOT give.
Too many scammers over the years. People are very wary, rich or not.March 10, 2017 1:44 pm at 1:44 pm #1228626ubiquitinParticipant
“I dont live there so I cant say exactly…”
so dont say anything. Is there a law that requires comment if you dont know what you are talkign about?
“You need a letter of authorization from the Vaad of the 5 Towns. Otherwise, people will NOT give.”
I protest this motzei laz. On Purim the haalcha is “kol haposhtin yad nosnin lo” And this is generally practiced to the best of my knowledge. Yes with a letter you’ll get more, but go ahead knock on doors you will get somethingMarch 10, 2017 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #1228627
Requiring a letter is not something exclusive to Lawrence, Lakewood requires it as wellMarch 10, 2017 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #1228628
“Requiring a letter is not something exclusive to Lawrence, Lakewood requires it as well”
On Purim too? Or only the rest of the year?March 10, 2017 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #1228629
“Impersonating and dressing up are two different things.”
Kind of like the difference between RebYidd or PBA trolling and a real troll trolling.March 10, 2017 3:01 pm at 3:01 pm #1228630
We do not open doors no matter what the day is to anyone without a letter. The collectors know the rules, and yes, there are too many scammers around. If they can’t prove they are legitimate, no latterMarch 10, 2017 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #1228631
How unpurim like…March 10, 2017 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #1228632👑RebYidd23Participant
On Purim we specifically give to everyone who asks. And if someone is desperate enough to scam people, that is also someone who needs the money.March 10, 2017 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm #1228633
This is (IMHO) a classic “Nehurah Bei Planya” question and therefore Avak Lashon Hara to answer regarding specific areas. Go, do your Hishtadlus, and if you have a good cause, may Hashem help you.
One point. If you go Purim night, do not expect anyone to open doors. People want to sleep and there is no Chiyuv.
For whom are you planning to collect?
lesschumras – It says on Purim “Kol HaPoshet Yad Nosnim Lo”, which means you have to give something. 10 Agurot or a penny is “something”, and they get the point.
I have also heard that many “wealthy” people go away for Purim, so don’t expect anyone to respond. Even without people knocking for money, it may be cheaper than having to give so many Mishloach Manos LOL.March 10, 2017 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #1228634
Gavra, it has to be a shava prutah.March 10, 2017 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #1228635
DY – I was thinking about that. Do you have a source that the “Nosnim Lo” has to be a Shava Perutah? (Not Matanos L’evyonim, which you hopefully gave to a reliable institution or your Rov)March 10, 2017 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #1228636
I give via organizations and tzedakahs authorized by the shul. The problem with giving small amounts to collectors is the demands for larger amounts.March 13, 2017 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #1228637
Gavra, ????? always means a ??? ?????. See, for example, ??”? ???”? ?.March 13, 2017 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #1228638
LC, but the Shulchan Aruch says to give anyone who asks.March 14, 2017 12:11 am at 12:11 am #1228639
DY: “Gavra, ????? always means a ??? ?????.’
That’s interesting. I hadn’t realized that. L’maaseh, I don’t think I gave anyone less, but it’s good to know. I wonder how much that is in shekalim.March 14, 2017 1:04 pm at 1:04 pm #1228640
DY – Except where it doesn’t, for example Chalipin.
I hear the Rayah from the Shaarei Teshuva though, and thank you for the Maare Makom.
LUL – A perutah is 1/8 of an Issar Ha’Italki 🙂 In all seriousness, if you hold it is 1/2 of a grain of silver (which is the Shittah of the Rambam in Mishnayos Kiddushin), it is currently worth about 1.75 cents, which is less than 10 Agurot.March 14, 2017 1:05 pm at 1:05 pm #1228641
I give via organizations and tzedakahs authorized by the shul. The problem with giving small amounts to collectors is the demands for larger amounts.
Giving two cents (for DY 🙂 does not demand larger amounts. And you can forcefully say “no” and turn your back.March 14, 2017 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #1228642
When they are in your house it’s not that simpleMarch 14, 2017 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #1228643
GAW – well since there is nothing less than 10 agurot, I guess I have nothing to worry about 🙂 It’s a good thing that 5 agurot no longer exists.March 14, 2017 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #1228644ubiquitinParticipant
I believe R’ Moshe held a perutah is the smallest amount that has purhcasing pwer. In those days it was said to be a nickel, though perhaps now would be a dime or slightly moreMarch 14, 2017 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm #1228645yehudayonaParticipant
According to something called Halachipedia, Rav Yisroel Pinchas Bodner says a prutah today is a quarter (Halachos of Other Peoples’ Money, published in 2003).March 14, 2017 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #1228646WinnieThePoohParticipant
10 agurot has buying power- you can buy a plastic bag at the supermarket with it.March 14, 2017 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #1228647
WTP – true. Maybe people will start to value 10 agurot more now. I always feel guilty now when I’m a guest at someone’s house for Shabbos and I ask them for a plastic bag on Motzei Shabbos to help me pack my stuff in – something I never used to think about twice.March 14, 2017 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #1228648
Rav Bodner is the author of one of the two well-known Hilchos Brachos Sefarim in english. I think he’s also the author of a well-know english sefer on Hilchos Muktzah.March 14, 2017 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #1228649
WTP – on the other hand, the bag by itself is useless, so I wonder if that would count halachically.March 14, 2017 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #1228650
Plastic Bags are currently free in NYC, even if the mayor is trying to change thatMarch 15, 2017 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #1228651
DY – Except where it doesn’t, for example Chalipin.
Is chalipin a nesinah?
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