December 2, 2021 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm #2037194Reb EliezerParticipant
How about close to 800,000 deaths? Vaccinate and get protected. לא תעמוד על דם רעך, do not harm others!December 2, 2021 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm #2037211🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
Reb E – you made a statement about us specifically not being pro life because we downplay the omnicron variant :
when is comes to Omecron COVID-19 variant they downplay it.
you are wrong. You were called out on being wrong in accusing someone of NOT BEING PRO LIFE (think about the severity of such an accusation) and instead of admitting you are wrong, you start throwing covid stats around (not sure where you got them from but they are not about the topic YOU brought up)
It is very hard to understand how someone eho is so machshiv Torah and so unbelievably knowledgeable can have trouble saying “I made a mistake” on something so important.December 2, 2021 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #2037321Reb EliezerParticipant
‘Reb E – I know this will be hard for you to accept but omicron isn’t causing deaths. I am fairly certain that it has not even caused any hospitalizations’. Syag, Ron Johnson and yourself were downplaying the effect of Omecron saying no one died from it or ended up in the hospital. It might only be true if vaccinated which you forgot to mention and encourage it. Your words indicate that you are not pro-life.December 2, 2021 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm #2037554Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Daf yomi Taanit discusses a need to fast when there is a magefa at nearby place as it is inevitably coming, so we value foresight. The potential danger of new variant is a combination of higher transmission with escape of immunity from previous vaccines and infections. T cell protection seems to be holding better, protecting from severe disease bit not initial infection.
I have a new hypothesis that vivid with variants is continuously circulating in some communities. Most become protected from severe disease, but time to time get infected again. Most of infections aren’t noticed, but some do incremental unseen damage, like myocarditis.. so, after several times, an unusually large load cause a hard case
This would explain anecdotal observations that natural antibodies stay high: they do because they go down only when they stop encountering virus. Also, I am hearing about families who do tests to fly and turn out positive, then they remember yes some kids were not feeling well… Anyone else heard about such things happening?December 30, 2021 2:29 am at 2:29 am #2046395n0mesorahParticipant
Back when I first discussed the topic, I thought we would cover the whole sugya. Now I understand that you just want an axiom. I obliged. If I’m under selling your criteria, I apologize. Soon after your posts stopped. And I see that we have not overlapped on this site since. I had more posts prepared and will get to them soon.
Longingly, n0mesorahDecember 30, 2021 8:34 am at 8:34 am #2046445ujmParticipant
About that controversial topic, n0m, I had submitted several days ago a very pareve response to your Titanic-type scenario, on the old thread. But the mods apparently, in their infinite wisdom, deemed it insufficiently feminist to even permit the halachic thought to see the light of day.December 30, 2021 9:30 am at 9:30 am #2046502n0mesorahParticipant
I’m heading over.December 30, 2021 9:32 am at 9:32 am #2046504🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
Be careful, you are being groomed.January 19, 2022 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #2052579HaLeiViParticipant
Time for the next oneJanuary 19, 2022 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #2052623ujmParticipant
HaLeiVi: The real ones the mods don’t allow.January 19, 2022 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #2052649ParticipantParticipant
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