February 12, 2021 10:55 am at 10:55 am #1947575
Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s top aide privately apologized to Democratic lawmakers for withholding the state’s nursing home death toll from COVID-19 — telling them “we froze” out of fear that the true numbers would “be used against us” by federal prosecutors, The Post has learned.
The stunning admission of a coverup was made by secretary to the governor Melissa DeRosa during a video conference call with state Democratic leaders in which she said the Cuomo administration had rebuffed a legislative request for the tally in August because “right around the same time, [then-President Donald Trump] turns this into a giant political football,” according to an audio recording of the two-hour-plus meetingFebruary 12, 2021 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #1947595akupermaParticipant
If you accidentally killed a large number of people, you go around boasting about it???February 12, 2021 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm #1947603ubiquitinParticipant
Although at the time it seemed like a reasonable approach
hospitals had a bed shortage , instead of “storing” stable Covid + nursing home residents in hospitals, and having nurses change PPE between tending to them and Covid neg patients
why not send them back to their homes and have nurses change PPE between tending to them and Covid neg residents.
for whatever reason, it didn’t work .
so own up to it , hiding and coverups are completely inexcusableFebruary 12, 2021 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #1947612
The coverup is inexcusable and wasn’t even necessary. Nursing home death rates were higher in NY than many states but lower than many others. (As of a few weeks ago, NY was #18 out of 50 states plus DC.) At least Cuomo is getting called out for his doctoring of the numbers; Ron De Santis is getting away with it.
Cuomo should plan on retiring in 2022.February 12, 2021 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #1947613
“at the time it seemed like a reasonable approach”
It probably prevented tens of thousands of deaths from ambulances needing to be turned away at hospitals. But the lack of PPE (not Cuomo’s fault) and the generally poor care given in many nursing homes literally killed people. And a coverup is inexcusable. I wonder how many other states many have doctored their data; we know Florida did.February 12, 2021 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #1947620☕️coffee addictParticipant
“It probably prevented tens of thousands of deaths from ambulances needing to be turned away at hospitals. But the lack of PPE”
We had the javits center, the comfort, and even Shor YoshuvFebruary 12, 2021 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #1947626
Cuomo is a genocidal maniac. He should be put in the dock and tried for genocide. Just seeing him in an orange jumpsuit and in chains will do a tiny level of justice to the tens of thousands of Cuomo’s victims who are no longer alive.February 13, 2021 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #1947728
>The coverup is inexcusable and wasn’t even necessary.<
Of course it was necessary, he was directly responsible by placing COVID patients into nursing homes.
Besides, he needed to sell a book. Why should pesky facts stop him?February 13, 2021 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #1947731GadolhadorahParticipant
“…tens of thousands of Cuomo’s victims who are no longer alive”
Are you totally looney tunes or simply feel compelled to continually indulge in Trumpian hyperbole. Suggest your go back and read “Trolling for Dummies’. Rule 1. Always make the post appear credible, albeit at the margin of rational discourse.February 13, 2021 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm #1947732ubiquitinParticipant
“We had the javits center, the comfort, and even Shor Yoshuv”
None of these were available on March 25 when Cuomo announced the poilcyFebruary 13, 2021 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #1947753
Ghadora: So far Cuomo acknowledged 15,000 victims died in New York nursing homes. And that count excludes victims that died after being transferred from the nursing home to a hospital. That’ll likely more than double the count, as must of Cuomo’s victims died in a hospital.
So, yes, tens of thousands is an accurate description of the number of Cuomo’s victims. And this count isn’t even including Cuomo’s victims who weren’t in nursing homes but died due to Cuomo’s gross mismanagement of the pandemic. New York and New Jersey have the two highest death ratio from covid-19 of all US states.February 13, 2021 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #1947754
“We had the javits center, the comfort, and even Shor Yoshuv”
None of these were available on March 25 when Cuomo announced the poilcy
Cuomo failed to change his murderous nursing home policy immediately after those extra hospital beds became available (thanks to the Trump Administration.)February 13, 2021 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #1947760
@CharlieHall, “Ron De Santis is getting away with it.”, the best defense is a good offense, I noticed whenever there is bad new about a Democrat you will always pivot to know a Republican, we are talking about what Cuomo admitted he did and you have to mix in others, like when we were talking about Yang hiring a Jewish operative and you had to mix in Jared KushnerFebruary 13, 2021 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm #1947764Anan SahadiParticipant
I would like to offer a new perspective:
maybe to prevent chaos, and for the good of our nation cuomo held back the numbers….
BUT CERTAINLY DON’T BLAME HEALTH COMMISIONER HOWARD ZUCKER MD he is just a parrot. everybody should just chill!!!!!!!February 14, 2021 8:17 am at 8:17 am #1947825
Welcome to the YWNCR!
A small tip; NEVER EVER use the ‘Good intentions’ card, it may very well backfire.
Nice screen name BTW.February 14, 2021 8:20 am at 8:20 am #1947827OrechDinParticipant
Why does this bother you but not Trump setting national policy when he told the country that the virus was a hoax, that it would magically go away, that it would be gone by Easter, that it can be cured with an untested drug, and G-d knows what else? Why does this bother you more than Trump appointing Kushner hiring a bunch of college kids to supply the nation with PPE, specifically excluding NY because the voters are majority Democrats, and requiring states to bid for limited supplies? Why does this bother you more than DeSantis, Kemp, Abbott, and the other ghoulish governors opening their economies in April 2020 so the virus could spread most easily in those states killing hundreds of thousands of Americans?
Your selective outrage is showing.February 14, 2021 8:28 am at 8:28 am #1947861
OD: New York and New Jersey have, BY FAR, the biggest death ratio in the entire United States. NY and NJ handled the pandemic far worse than any other states.February 14, 2021 9:01 am at 9:01 am #1947880
>when he told the country that the virus was a hoax<
>that it would magically go away<
He did say it would disappear like a miracle, was he referring to a medical miracle such as the vaccine? Who knows.
>that it would be gone by Easter<
He said he wanted to reopen by Easter.
>that it can be cured with an untested drug<
Fact-check: You guessed it, False.
While there are conflicting studies on the use of Hydroxychloroquine, it is far from untested.
Your baseless outrage is showing.February 14, 2021 10:00 am at 10:00 am #1947897
@OrechDin, The insane and false claims you made about were already answered by made alyiah, as to supply chain I am much more upset that NYS squandered a Billon dollars on supplies that were never delivered much more so then Jared hiring college kids.
What is interesting is why the city of New York would wire eight-point-something million dollars to a company that had never sold a ventilator before and had only been incorporated for two weeks.
I don’t live in Fl. Ga. or Tx. so what Desantis, Kemp and Abott did does not annoy me as much as Cuomo’s shenanigan’s because I have to clean up his mess with my tax dollarsFebruary 14, 2021 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #1947965
“the best defense is a good offense”
I wasn’t defending Cuomo I was comparing him to another rasha.February 14, 2021 1:52 pm at 1:52 pm #1947967
” have, BY FAR, the biggest death ratio in the entire United States”
Not for nursing homes. MA is #1. Partly because Jared Kushner’s goons stole 3 million PPE items. HIs obstruction of PPE deliveries is probably the real reason nursing home deaths were so high, but chas v’shalom anyone connected to Trump ever get blamed for anything here.February 14, 2021 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #1947986Ben LeviParticipant
This is getting pathetic,
No DeSantis did not have an intentional coverup as certified by no less then the extremely liberal USA Today in a July 9th Fact Check.
Yes Andrew Cuomo issued an executive order that arguably caused thousands deaths.
Yes he admitted that the true extent of it was covered up.
No Liberals do not.February 14, 2021 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #1948004
@Charliehall, that is the textbook definition, you deflect the bad by pointing out something else.
and the PPE fiasco was the worst in NYS, 1 BILLION spent on supplies that were awarded to shell companies with no real inventory, and this jerk of a Governor is not man enough to admit he messed up.February 14, 2021 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #1948105GadolhadorahParticipant
Until this issue is resolved, CNN should take his brother Chris off the air. While its not guilt by association, the two were inseparable on Chris’ night coverage of the Covid issue multiple times last spring and summer when all this was happening. I think having Crhis now opine on the Biden Covid policies and accomplishments will raise credibility issues for the networks other reporters and commentators.February 14, 2021 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #1948131Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
>> Until this issue is resolved
How would this issue be resolved? I thought it is already resolved – someone admitted that they were covering deaths to avoid federal prosecutors. I am not aware of a “Trump exemption” in federal policies.February 15, 2021 11:35 am at 11:35 am #1948360AyiddishekupParticipant
Charliehall where is the evidence that Ron desantis played with the death toll that’s a big accusation? As opposed to cuomo where it’s been actually proven he lied about them?February 15, 2021 11:39 am at 11:39 am #1948355
@ always ask “How would this issue be resolved? I thought it is already resolved – someone admitted that they were covering deaths to avoid federal prosecutors.”
Wrong she backpaddled like crazy when the stuff hit the fan, Cuomo is not man enough to admit he messed up.February 15, 2021 1:24 pm at 1:24 pm #1948406RememberThatParticipant
All those Cuomo’s shows on TV were embedded with self grandiose… How dare he took advantage of korbonos and families suffering for his ugly GA’AVA. YuckFebruary 15, 2021 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #1948428Yserbius123Participant
New York State accounted for nearly half the US COVID deaths during April 2020. Why isn’t Cuomo held accountable for that?February 15, 2021 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #1948507Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
>> she backpaddled like crazy
Oh, I thought the issue was fully confirmed.February 16, 2021 12:45 am at 12:45 am #1948549anonymous JewParticipant
1. Cuomo required nursing homes to take back patients
2. Cuomo forbade nursing homes from testing the patients for Covid or refusing to accept them.
3. The nursing homes were not prepared to deal with Covid
4. Cuomo’s Dept of Health supervises the readiness of nursing homes. Of 600 nursing homes, 100 are rated one star ( out of 5 ) only because you can’t be rated no stars
5. The Javits Center and the Navy hospital ship were available April 7February 16, 2021 7:50 am at 7:50 am #1948670
Cuomo’s lame apology was about as genuine as Trump’s condemnation of the Capitol takeover.February 18, 2021 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm #1949803
FBI is now investigating
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