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  • #829405

    tzaddiq
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    mommamia22 – I assure you, it was! But my neighbour is an ehriche yid whom i have great respect and admiration. I knew better than to exclaim my disgust, and gave him the benefit of the doubt.

    #829406

    tzaddiq, the source is a gemara in nida page 17a where the gemara list’s 3 ways of dealing with nails and grades the people who do them. and the first of them is one who burns it. which the gemura calls ‘chusid’.

    #829407

    tzaddiq, the source is a gemara in nida page 17a where the gemara list’s 3 ways of dealing with nails and grades the people who do them. and the first of them is one who burns it. which the gemura calls ‘chusid’.

    #829408

    Sorry for posting twice. was a mistake.

    #829409

    bekitzur
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    4 Simple Rules:

    1. Always go to the right.

    2. Cut every other one.

    3. Start at the second finger.

    #829410

    bekitzur
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    4. Finish one hand before you go to the next.

    #829411

    moi aussi
    Member

    Start with your left hand two four one three five, then right hand same sequence.

    Don’t cut Thursdays, don’t cut hands and feet same day.

    Erev Shabbes is for hands.

    Don’t throw nails on the floor, pious people burn them, the hamon am (masses) flush them down the toilet.

    #829413

    abcd2
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    if anyone wants to easily see this inside it is in kitzur shulchan aruch in halachos of erev shabbos chapter ayin Beis (72) paragraph Yud daled (14)right hand cutting order = 2,4,1,3,5 left hand = 4,2,5,3,1

    and as written above, most poskim say begin with left hand.

    In the book Halachichaly speaking vol.1 there lists separate sources for nail cutting and their order that are interesting such as long nails might be a sign of a thief or that Torah learning may be forgotten to others that it shows it is a sign of lack of derech eretz

    #829414

    mik5
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    what about throwing them in the garbage? not good enough, right?

    #829415

    Sam2
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    Throwing them in a garbage where they will never be stepped on by people is perfectly fine. (And no, don’t tell me that the Gemara is against me. “Zorkan” there literally means to throw them out in public where people will walk, not in a location designated for trash where no one will ever go.)

    #829416

    mik5
    Participant

    but sam2 then your soul will search for them at the time of the resurrection of the dead, because it’s a part of your body that wasn’t destroyed.

    #829417

    sem graduate
    Member

    mik5: what makes you say that flushing down a toilet is more of a destruction than submitting to sanitation?

    #829418

    zahavasdad
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    but sam2 then your soul will search for them at the time of the resurrection of the dead, because it’s a part of your body that wasn’t destroyed.

    Why are you concerned about your nails, but not your hair

    #829420

    mik5
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    throwing them in the garbage is not immediate destruction. the option is not brought down in the poskim. flushing/ burning are.

    #829421

    Sam2
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    The Poskim don’t really discuss the concept of destroying things that you cut off your body. They only mention throwing away your nails because the Gemara says it can cause a woman to lose her baby. This is a Kaballah issue which most people are not concerned about. As was mentioned, do you burn the hair you cut off?

    #829422

    abcd2
    Participant

    To Sam2:You wrote “This is a Kaballah issue which most people are not concerned about.” Actually,saying most people can be very subjective, as most people I know flush their nails whenever possible instead of just throwing them away, as in lieu of fire this is the preferred manner

    #829423

    cinderella
    Member

    Hi, can someone answer my questions?

    1) Do these halachos apply if someone else is cutting your nails for you? Should you tell the manicurist to cut every other nail? And should you only go get a manicure on the days that u are allowed to cut your nails?

    2) Also- is filing your nails considered cutting?

    #829424

    mik5
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    are you denying that your soul will search for stuff that was part of your body (scabs, skin, whatever) at the time of the resurrection of the dead? am i wrong in believing this?

    #829425

    abcd2
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    to cinderella: yes you should not cut in order even when having a manicure and washing your hands applies as well, the manicurist does not have to wash her hands. In terms of getting rid of nails the ruach ra applies if the nails are in a place where they fall. Obviously by a salon this is very common a manicurist should sweep away the nails to an area away from where they fall to avoid this. BTW Women can have finger and toe nails done on same day

    #829426

    moi aussi

    Member

    We cut left first, because we’re going towards right. Right is our destination, so we start with left and work our way towards right.

    even though I don’t like Aussies;), I agree with your point. you are most certainly correct.

    #829427

    abcd2
    Participant

    an easy way to remember is to put a post it note or tape with the order

    left 4,2,5,3,1

    right2,4,1,3,5 inside your med cabinet or drawers where you keep your nail cutters. friend gave me that idea

    #829428

    Sam2
    Participant

    Mik5: You’re not wrong. Many people (it is most, flushing is the same as throwing out, not as burning) are Noheg something which would apparently indicate that they don’t hold that will happen.

    #829429

    cinderella
    Member

    so abcd2- i should ask her not to cut my nails in order? She’ll think I’m psycho!!

    #829430

    Sam2
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    Fine n dandy: That’s ridiculous. We do everything from the right first. That’s the Halacha. You’re really going to let politically-associated terms from the French Revolution determine Halacha for us?

    #829431

    yitayningwut
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    mik5 –

    In my limited knowledge of Halacha I have never heard of such a concept.

    #829432

    moi aussi
    Member

    Sam2 Most Poskim say to go from left to write when cutting nails. Do they all belong to the French Revolution? Ever considered a history class combined with Messilas Yeshorim?

    #829433

    Sam2
    Participant

    Moi Aussi: Can you provide a source for these “most Poskim”? We do the right side first for everything (except for tying shoes and removing clothes), so why should this be different? Maybe they say it’s similar to removing clothes, but there’s no way the reason is that “we should always move to the right”.

    #829434

    moi aussi
    Member

    Sam2: The poster abcd2 mentioned that most Poskim say begin with left hand, I don’t know the source, I’ve simply known this all my life.

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