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Townspeople of Monsey Make your voices heard to the powers at be. The deer population is out of control here. This poses a significant danger to peoples lives, the amount of vehicular deaths and injuries caused by these animals is far too large. Human life is paramount, the deer population needs to be culled.
We can take our own chevra of 5 or 10 guys to cull the deers.
Anyone wanting to join us please post below.
Deer season ended over a week ago so any plans for eliminating deer must wait until the fall. Most hunters look to kill the biggest buck they can find which does little to control the deer population. Eliminating antlerless and female deer is the only way to effectively reduce the deer population.
Those interested in hunting deer should look into the state regulations regarding hunting.Alternatively, you could address the root cause of many of the problems residents are facing: reckless over development.
Monsey drivers need to slow down. Everyone goes 50 mph
Over-development increases the deer population?
It is forbidden in Rockland County to fire off a firearm at any time. Hunters of deer use Bows and arrows to kill them. I am not kidding.
“deer were here first” ?
put deer signs with notes in yiddish to drive slowly and avoid treifa on the road.ujm: Doesn’t create more deer, but because their living areas are being taken over and they are limited to smaller areas, they are more likely to be in the same areas as people. (No where else to go.)
And more likely to need to cross back and forth on the roads, in search of food.
The above is why you’re more likely to see them — and run into them — in Monsey than, for instance Sloatsburg.
Deer in Ramapo have no natural predators, as we have killed off the wolves and other animals. That’s why they’re reproducing at such a high rate. They’re only natural predator now is the car.
Manhattan, Brooklyn and the Bronx used to be mostly farmland with lots of wide open spaces, wooded areas, much fewer people. Now it has all these big building with lots of people after they became “over-developed”.
Some people who lived in old Manhattan and Brooklyn also complained about its over-development.
That’s the normal course of life with natural population growth requiring the building up of rural areas into urban areas.
I am a life long Monseyite, the problem started about 40 years ago when they wanted to cull the Bear Mountain / Harriman herd and the animal right people went nuts and fought the plan, result? then exapanded the range from Stony Pt. to Haverstraw to Ramapo to NJ.
I reme,ber 30 years ago there was not a deer to be seen in Monsey.
PS hunting is not allowed within 1000 Ft of a residence so that pretty much rules out Hunting in RocklandPossible solutions:
1. The government can hire hunters to kill the deer, and donate the venison to soup kitchens (as is done elsewhere). Allowing amateur hunters to hunt in suburbs would be unwise
2. The frum community can get permission to capture the deer, leading to a kosher venison industry
3. Based on common law, the crown owned the deer and those rights went to the states, so the deer are owned by the state. And, New York is an infamous “nanny state” known for rather ridiculous projects to waste taxpayer money. So the state can round up the deer, force them to listen to road safety lectures. and release them wear yellow safety vests. This idea might appeal to someone such as De Blasio if he manages to get elected governor.
“Irregardless???”
Since the state won’t trust humans to cull the deer population, they can reintroduce natural predators – coyotes. Problem solved.
And unlike deer, coyote can be hunted legally throughout the winter in NY, once the deer population is under control.
How many people on the forum grew up in rural areas, with family and freinds who hunted or farmed?
Post pictures of R’ Shayele along the roads. If it works for mice maybe it’ll work for deer.
Hello? Wolves anyone? Originally Hashems plan to control the deer. Bring ‘em back.
Drivers are a much higher threat to drivers than deer. 200 people are killed in US annually by deer collisions and 40,000 from other traffic accidents.
Maybe Hashem is sending deer to remind people to drive slower?
Moose are far more dangerous to motorists because of their size, and in parts of New England they are hit by cars. Most collisions with deer only cause moderate damage to the car unless the deer ends up on the windshield.
you are right, moose take 700 lives per year, and they only live in the north.
Has anyone explored humane capture of the deer and contracting with one of several really outstanding chassideshe shechitas in the area for purpose of supplyingh venison to local markets. Venison is the healthiest of all red meats with less than 2% fat (that’s less than skinless chicken), fewer calories than other red meat varieties, and the highest protein content of any major meat. It would be a lot cheaper than purchasing from RMC (the only source I know of that consistently stocks venison with a glatt mehadrin hashgacha.
Would you eat “Esav-K” (looks like a K with hairy hands)? It was good enough for Yitzhak-avinu.
@Gadolhadorah — What’s “RMC?”
RMC is the Rare Meat Company, a source of kosher venison and bison we discovered while spending 6 months in London just prior to Covid. They had hashgacha from the Federation Vaad and “shecht to order” based on customer reservations. Aside from the obvious kashruth issues in terms of meat schechted from from a cow or sheep (considered a domesticated behemah) versus the challenges of shechting a deer (a chayah). There were also UK-specific rules against domestic shechita of deer so they had to be imported from the Continent. The quality of their products were outstanding but their prices were very high in comparison to Aarons and other domestic U.S. suppliers of venison etc. we have used since we got back in 2020.
“Oh see the deer. Has the deer a little doe?”
“Soitanly! Two bucks! Nyuck nyuck nyuck.”Most definitely worth a try.
GadolHadorah – So where can I get glatt kosher venison in Monsey?
@Motchah11: at Louie Sheiner BBQ if you get invited
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