March 14, 2013 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm #608608
My friend just called to tell/vent to me that she is going on a date and the boy doesn’t drive, which means they will be taking a taxi of some sort.
What do people think of this mehalach??March 14, 2013 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm #937705Offensive UnsernameParticipant
I SAY BEFORE YOU GET MARRIED
LEARN HOW TO DRIVE “PLEASE”March 14, 2013 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #937706golferParticipant
???March 14, 2013 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #937707ah talmidParticipant
I think it is much more tznius since the guy and woman are not alone in the car for a couple hours (round trip.)
Aside from that, I don’t think that between driving or being driven by a car service, one is better than the other.March 15, 2013 12:43 am at 12:43 am #937708sharpMember
Next thing she’ll tell you is that this guy is great and everything about him is awesome, and he even took his road test and passed it on the first go, he’s from a great family, learns well, has wonderful middos but she isn’t attracted to him. Brace yourself. Consider yourself warned…March 15, 2013 12:59 am at 12:59 am #937709WIYMember
troll?March 15, 2013 1:10 am at 1:10 am #937710Veltz MeshugenerMember
Not sure what the question is. Would it be better for him to pick her up on a bicycle?March 15, 2013 1:34 am at 1:34 am #937711ImaofthreeParticipant
Does it really matter what we think?March 15, 2013 1:40 am at 1:40 am #937712Offensive UnsernameParticipant
no he’s just asking every ones opinionMarch 15, 2013 2:37 am at 2:37 am #937713
Most people who do go out on dates drive themselves. Was wondering if anyone else finds it interesting to go by car service as opposed to the boy doing the driving.March 15, 2013 2:38 am at 2:38 am #937714
Sharp. What do u mean by that?March 15, 2013 3:09 am at 3:09 am #937715sharpMember
estee. It was a joke, nothing to be taken too seriously.March 15, 2013 3:11 am at 3:11 am #937716WolfishMusingsParticipant
So, is a driver’s license and ownership of (or access to) a car now a prerequisite for getting married?
Otherwise, what would you recommend that people without driver’s licenses or cars do?
The WolfMarch 15, 2013 3:13 am at 3:13 am #937717sammy16Member
How bout the girl driving?March 15, 2013 3:16 am at 3:16 am #937718shnitzyMember
Estee, sharp never jokes.;). Ever.
Just do us a favor and don’t start any threads telling us you’re undecided, deal? 🙂
Hey guys, maybe it’s HER FRIEND!! I bet you…March 15, 2013 4:05 am at 4:05 am #937719popa_bar_abbaParticipant
This is what happens when parents are retarded babies and don’t teach their teenage kids to drive. The sons graduate high school, go off to yeshiva, go to Israel, come back and start dating and don’t know how to drive.March 15, 2013 4:18 am at 4:18 am #937720Veltz MeshugenerMember
Or when yeshivas pass rules against bachurim driving because it’s inevitable that the first thing they’d do is drive to a girl. You reap what you sow, I guess. Now he can’t drive to a girl.March 15, 2013 4:25 am at 4:25 am #937721sammy16Member
Aha so it’s not the age gap we have finally found the problem!March 15, 2013 4:52 am at 4:52 am #937722yehudayonaParticipant
In my single days, I took dates on the subway. I knew how to drive, but I didn’t own a car. Is esteer suggesting that I should have rented a car every time I went on a date?March 15, 2013 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #937723yaff80Participant
I personally believe that nowadays allowing a boy to learn to drive is included in the gemara in Kidushin ???? ????? ?????? (a father has the duty to teach his son a trade. The gemara includes teaching his son life skills – i.e how to swim, in case he is caught in a storm whilst at sea.)
Anyone got any thoughts on this?March 15, 2013 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #937724lakewhutParticipant
In brooklyn, no chance that works. Out of towners or maybe someone from manhattan might be more open to that ideaMarch 15, 2013 4:21 pm at 4:21 pm #937725dunnoMember
I’ll probably get yelled at for this but I would find it pretty strange and nerdy.March 15, 2013 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm #937726shnitzyMember
yaff80, interesting thought. But I agree that it would only apply in a place where it’s truly necessary.March 15, 2013 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #937727notwhouthinkiamMember
thats why we need bushos!! (sit ins) the chassidim dont have a crisis because they do sit ins no shayches to the age gap!! and horse and buggy used to be in style!! mazel tov to all the people who got married before cars were invented!!March 15, 2013 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #937728SaysMeMember
yaff80- i’ve heard (though can’t remember who said it) that in today’s day, the inyan of teaching your kids to swim is to teach them to drive properly.March 15, 2013 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #937729yytzParticipant
It’s a good idea to learn to drive in high school in case there’s an emergency, but it’s not a good idea for teenagers to drive too much. Studies show that teens have worse judgment than adults and are much more likely to die in car accidents.
In Israel, the rate of traffic fatalities per mile driven is slightly higher than in the US, but the overall traffic fatality rate (per person) is much lower, because people don’t have to drive as much. The murder rate is also much lower, about half of what it is in the US, and life expectancy is higher. For these reasons, one is actually safer to live in Israel, despite the occasional terrorism and wars. The less driving people do in everyday life, the better. Maybe they could just have a Skype date instead? Just kidding.
SaysMe: I hope no one takes that to mean they don’t have to teach their kids to swim. It’s very important. I saw in the news fairly recently that several teenagers drowned, ironically while they were trying to save someone else who was drowning. None of them ever learned how to swim.March 15, 2013 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #937730koillel101Member
I took car services.
i had just gotten my license but wasnt comfortable in brooklyn(BP) with all the traffic and offensive driving so took a cab to solve the problem!
I told the girl before and I dont think she saw anything wrong with it!March 17, 2013 6:30 am at 6:30 am #937731rebdonielMember
Cars are expensive- 4-5 dollars a gallon for gas, insurance (very high for young men), inspection, cost of a car, parking, etc. cost a fortune.
At least they didn’t go on a train or bus; in NYC, any decent woman would have no problem using our public transportation system.
Any one that does is still a girl and should grow up before even thinking about marrying, taking care of a man, raising his children, etc.March 17, 2013 9:28 am at 9:28 am #937732YW Moderator-42Moderator
Car services are expensive, the girl should offer to dribe or take public transit.March 17, 2013 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #937733Boro Park GirlMember
why dont i think this is such a bad idea?
if the boy doesnt feel comfortable driving, the girl shudnt put him under more pressure durnig the date by insisting he drive. THere cud be countless reasons why he x wanna/or cant drive.
I think its fine for them to take a cab-just make sure the girl knows before cuz otherwise its weird.
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