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    Why do many people walk in front of others who are in middle of shemone esrai as if there is nothing wrong?


    Here we go again. The cofferoom has so much deja vu.

    kvodhatorah I discovered a long time ago that many people are either

    1. ignorant of Halacha (most people) or

    2. know Halacha but cant be bothered with doing every single Halacha ( hey theres sooooo many I do most things so what if I dont do EVERYTHING Im still better than shmerel…I must be alright) especially the ones that are difficult or very inconvenient like this one.

    3. they see a lot of people do something wrong so assume its mutar and that theres some heter(because SOOO many people are doing it) and jump on the bandwagon

    For the record I asked a Rav and was told this Halacha is still existent and there is no heter for what goes on wth people stepping back into others 4 amos or walking in front of those davening shemoneh esrei or taking siddurim or other things off the table in front of one davening shemoneh esrei.


    Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach says that this Halacha does not apply if the person is Davening in a place where he knows that people will have to walk within 4 Amos of him (e.g. most places in a Beis Midrash, anywhere near the aisle).

    Rav Shlomo Zalman supposedly used to say that if someone is blocking the aisle by Davening Shmoneh Esrei you can physically move him.

    I was also once told a story by someone who was once Davening in an aisle and someone behind him started, very loudly, to say “nu, nu”. After 3 or 4 times the guy couldn’t take it anymore and turned around to shush the person who was disturbing his Shmoneh Esrei. He was mortified to find that the person he was about to shush was Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach!

    old man

    Rav Shlomo Zalman zt”l was extremely makpid on those who interfered with others’ spiritual needs in order to promote their own. The above stories are a good example.

    Bottom line is of course the halachah applies, but not every davener is entitled to benefit from it. Don’t interfere with others, and you have the right to insist that others don’t interfere with you.

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