February 7, 2019 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #1675933
day camps are a communal necessity , they offer good programming and try hard . so why is flatbush paying 40% more than similar programs in bp? BP also have longer hours , and the boys even have sundays. what can we do to make DC more affordable i need to send 4 kids to day camp I DONT HAVE 9 GRAND ” paid before day 1″February 7, 2019 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #1675986
BP/Chasidish yeshivas and day camps have cost less than Flatbush/Litvish yeshivas and day camps for a long time now. The Flatbush ones tend to have more extracurricular activities/secular subjects, which perhaps accounts for the differences in price.February 14, 2019 11:09 am at 11:09 am #16796261Participant
Joseph no it’s because they Flatbush camps know that they can get away with itFebruary 14, 2019 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm #1679693
How can they get away with it? Flatbush kids can (and do) go to Boro Park day camps and yeshivos.February 14, 2019 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #1679766anonymous JewParticipant
Well, it might be the same reason bp/chassidish yeshivas have such low tuition. They probably pay ( when they do pay ) very low salaries.February 14, 2019 2:18 pm at 2:18 pm #1679771GadolhadorahParticipant
Nine thousand dollars for 4 kids to attend a day camp for the entire summer is a bargain. Figure it out in terms of the number of work hours for camp counselors, food preparation, facility costs etc. I”m constantly amazed at those who scream gevalt about yiddeshe mosdos who are trying to pay living wages to their staff and comply with all the safety, health and workplace rules. That costs money and if you are not prepared to pay for a quality day camp, keep you kids at home and see how much that will cost in terms of your own work schedule and keeping the kids fully engaged.February 14, 2019 2:18 pm at 2:18 pm #1679772funnyboneParticipant
Joseph: how many Flatbush children go to BP. Please back your response with a reliable source.February 14, 2019 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #1679789
1,120 Flatbush children go to Boro Park yeshivos. 570 Flatbush children go to Boro Park day camps. (Source: Avi Chai Foundation, 2016 study)February 16, 2019 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #1680482anonymous JewParticipant
Joseph, i searched the website, and googled it and couldn’t find the study. Why would they do such a study anyway?February 16, 2019 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #1680486
To satisfy funnybone’s morbid curiosity.February 17, 2019 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #1680867
i made a number of calls and one kind administrator explained the cause for the price diff. with these few points;
1.all DC in bp are run as an extension of the school by the school and as a service primarily to the parent body.
2. the goal is to break even and cover the cost of their drivers , office staff, cleaning crew…yes addl staff get pd but they are not top heavy.
3. no rent the school does not charge its own dc rent its basicly the same entity
4. a big one ; they all own their BUSES so transp. is way down.
5.in flatbush its about 7200 for 4 kids not 9000 as i posted bp is about 1000-1400 a kid
6. programming, trips…& salaries are basicly the same but there is no director salary aside from the very big places
7. more eligible lunch program
as a frustrated parent i understand its time we learn something from bpFebruary 17, 2019 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm #1680918
What do you mean in point 7 about the lunch program, Meir G?February 18, 2019 1:10 pm at 1:10 pm #1681334
joseph i meant running dc as an extension of the schoolFebruary 18, 2019 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #1681589funnyboneParticipant
Joseph: which part of my curiosity is morbid? Please back your response with a reliable and real source.
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