November 22, 2021 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #2031685
The dead sea is drying up rapidly by the year. Is there a way to stop this? Also is there any prophecy or connection In Torah to the dead sea drying up? Is that even a possibility?November 22, 2021 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #2032181akupermaParticipant
You can always pump water into it (the matter has been discussed, with the idea being to get hydroelectric power as the water falls from sea-level). Much of the water that had been flowing into it has been (and is) being diverted for agriculture and human consumption. This is hardly something worthy of a prophesy (i.e. if you divert rivers from flowing into a lake, the lake dries up – happens elsewhere as well).November 22, 2021 6:06 pm at 6:06 pm #2032306
I think dead sea/Jordan is a remarkable place – it is actually a boundary between African plate and Saudi one. So, Israel is part of Africa and totally different land from Jordan. This might explain why Arabs are (un)luck to have oil, and Israel not.November 22, 2021 8:08 pm at 8:08 pm #2032319
Akuperma is correct. A great deal of study and analysis has been dedicated to various formulations of a project that would essentially consist of of a 100-125 km conduit diverting sea water from the Mediterranean (with an intake somewhere near the Gaza Strip) flowing down to the Dead Sea with hydroelectric turbines producing roughly 800-1000 MW of peak capacity. Aside from the enormous capital cost , there have also been strong protests by neighboring Arab countries and Israeli environmentalists opposing the project (even though more recent efforts have considered if/how Jordan and Egypt could partner in the effort). The idea has been around for over 50 years. In 1981, the UN General Assembly actually passed a resolution (surprise??) opposing any such project.November 22, 2021 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #2032327Abba_SParticipant
AAQ You are aware that there are oil rigs off the Isreali coast.November 22, 2021 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #2032329
Wait so why haven’t they pumped water yet If its such an easy solution? So much of it has already dried up even 20 years ago and it loses more and more water every year. Also will constant new water have any effect on the flotation phenomenon?
Israel is part of Africa? I thought it was Asia.November 22, 2021 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #2032436
“..so why haven’t they pumped water yet If its such an easy solution??”
First of all, its NOT “easy” beyond the simplistic notion of digging a 125 KM ditch and letting the water flow downhill from the Mediterranean to the Dead Sea. Huge cost, some significant engineering issues, even greater environmental issues and MEGA geopolitical problems with neighboring countries.November 22, 2021 11:01 pm at 11:01 pm #2032459
for those looking to pour water from one place to another, first check with Egyptians and Kazakhs what kind of disasters his can create. We are not fully ready to emulate Hashem here.November 22, 2021 11:01 pm at 11:01 pm #2032463
I wasn’t the one who said that idea was easy, in fact I’m sure it’s not since they haven’t done anything to stop this from drying out.
Also isn’t there a prophecy in nach regarding the dead sea being cured or something like that? Whatever that means maybe that life can survive in it since now nothing does.November 22, 2021 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #2032464
RW, Israel up to Jordan is part of African tectonic plate, Jordan is part of Arabian. The easiest way to see how different plates match (and the source of original idea) is to cut Africa and South America from your map and then match them to each other. Play with the kids.
Abba: Israeli oil is not same as what Saudis have. In general, oil was mostly a curse for most countries except he most developed ones: Arabs, Iranians, Venezuela, Russia, etc.November 22, 2021 11:02 pm at 11:02 pm #2032466
Maybe Israelis can connect Hamas tunnels under Gaza with the seas and Gaza will become an island?November 22, 2021 11:48 pm at 11:48 pm #2032497
AAQ: IDF has some experience with flooding these tunnels, albeit not for hydroelectric purposes.November 22, 2021 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #2032506
GH, yes, but Hamas is mainly digging in the wrong direction – parallel to the beach instead of from sea to sea. Maybe need to mess up with their compasses.November 23, 2021 6:35 am at 6:35 am #2032526Shimon NodelParticipant
Companies in Israel and Jordan which mine the dead sea for mineral products are also contributing to the problemNovember 23, 2021 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #2032940mentsch1Participant
Is it worth the expense?
Sure there is a tourist industry, but you don’t need the sea at its current levels. Even if it continues to shrink there will remain accessible areas for the tourists. So why make a massive investment in it?November 23, 2021 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #2032962
Because they are saying it will eventually totally dry up. Aside for the sinkholes that it’s causing and also getting farther and farther from the hotels and tourist zones. It’s not just a tourist attraction it’s one of the world wonders or at least wonders of Israel.November 23, 2021 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #2032996
Aside from evaporation, potash production on both the Israeli and Jordanian sides are biggest water users. A three-way agreement among EY, Jordan and Egypt on regional water use that included a program for replenishing flows in to the Dead Sea would likely be the quickest way to move the ball forward since any unilateral efforts would trigger significant opposition.November 24, 2021 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #2033451Abba_SParticipant
GH: Why is Egypt involved they are no where near the Jordan River or the Dead Sea. Connecting the Mediterranean Sea to the Dead Sea would bring millions of gallon of salt water to the Jordan River polluting it so that it couldn’t be used for drinking or agriculture purposes.
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