December 25, 2021 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #2044587lakewhutParticipant
People are just bashing into stores and looting in democrat cities across the USA and their elected officials are doing nothing to help. Why are democrats ok with this?December 25, 2021 8:51 pm at 8:51 pm #2044738DovidBTParticipant
“Why are democrats okay with this?”
Because they need the votes of the criminals and those who support them.December 25, 2021 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #2044741ujmParticipant
Because BLM demanded Democrats go soft on crime and handicap the police.December 25, 2021 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm #2044757☕️coffee addictParticipant
I did hear that the democrats are waking up to it and now want to increase cops
But people are smarter than that because they decriminalized everything so it’s pointlessDecember 25, 2021 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #2044764theshadchansaysParticipant
totally maskim!!!! im a full-fledged democrat and i comit crime. all day. so, if your looking for proof, than there it is.December 25, 2021 10:34 pm at 10:34 pm #2044762moishekapoiehParticipant
what a canardDecember 26, 2021 7:13 am at 7:13 am #2044787theshadchansaysParticipant
moish: you think i’m kidding. I’M not. yes, there R people in the world that get a thrill out of doing crime. i mean, when you clean out a store you GET stuffDecember 26, 2021 7:35 am at 7:35 am #2044803
The average Joe on the street democrats aren’t okay with it, they just won’t stop supporting the officials who are letting it happen. They probably aren’t willing to see how it connects to their own choices.December 26, 2021 8:42 am at 8:42 am #2044814
And most Republicans are ganovim and engage in immoral acts…
Studies by various public interest groups show that tax compliance among Republicans is much lower than Dems and that over 80 percent of IRS ordered tax refunds for violations of the code come from Republicans (as imputed from FEC reports) . Tax cheating is ganavah from the entire tzibur since others have to pay higher taxes to make up for the shortfall in anticipated government revenues. Likewise, a disproportionate percentage of those convicted of corporate bribery and violations of the FCPA are also self-identified Republicans (as per FEC reports and their own social media postings on behalf of candidates). The amount of ganavah by R’s pales in comparison to the nickel and dime stuff done by attributed to D’s and their misguided political leadership.December 26, 2021 8:47 am at 8:47 am #2044816
Well that was pretty off topic. We were talking about the democrats who support/allow the crime surge. You can just tell us all that you aren’t one of themDecember 26, 2021 11:23 am at 11:23 am #2044821
Syag: Agreed, totally off-topic, but I’ll stipulate to not being out on the streets with a PETA hoodie burning down our local vegetarian restaurant (that has a good Chassideshe hashgacha).December 26, 2021 11:23 am at 11:23 am #2044831philosopherParticipant
Gadolhadorah, taxes today are legalized stealing by the government. The colonies revolted against the British because they had to pay taxes while not being represented in the British government. Their taxes were pennies according to what we pay today and we are not represented in government either, only special interest group with a lot of $ are. The government keeps on stealing from the citizens to spend on stupid things to get these politicians spending the money reelected. The list of ridiculous things the government spends on is miles long.
A large percentage of Democrats get away without paying ANY taxes, most of them are in the low income bracket getting tons of programs i.e. handouts from government coffers.December 26, 2021 12:34 pm at 12:34 pm #2044828hujuParticipant
Republicans love divorce. The only two US presidents who were divorced are Reagan and Trump. Children of divorced couples are more likely to commit crimes.December 26, 2021 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm #2044857
GH- cute 😁 i meant one of the supporters. That was my point, the democrat citizens don’t condone the crime. But are you willing to vote against the democrats who do? Will you vote them out of office?December 26, 2021 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm #20448592scentsParticipant
“ Studies by various public interest groups show that tax compliance among Republicans is much lower than Dems and that over 80 percent of IRS ordered tax refunds for violations of the code come from Republicans (as imputed from FEC reports) .”
-Maybe its due to more Republicans/Conservatives having jobs and businesses, so tax laws and tax crimes are more relevant and prevalent to this political group.December 26, 2021 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm #2044890
2scents – 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣December 26, 2021 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #2044961
Gadol > a disproportionate percentage of those convicted of corporate bribery and violations of the FCPA are also self-identified Republicans
What are the numbers, specifically. Anecdotally, I do not see different attitudes towards honesty based on party affiliation. Here is what I found:
A wiki page listing convicted politicians has 73 Rs and 58 Ds after 1990. All republicans in early 1900s. Starting 1960 to 2000, and looking just at Congress – 2 to 1 Ds, and after 2000 about equal.
here is some data from 2020 small business survey: 40% are R, 28% are D. Other surveys have 40% R and 22% D. Bigger difference among bigger business CEOs – 60% donated to R, 20% to D.
So, if politicians belong to parties in the same ratio as either small businessmen or CEOs, then D-s are more corrupt.December 26, 2021 6:30 pm at 6:30 pm #2045030
Democrats do not need to defend themselves on this – simply because crime is not exclusive to democratic states.
Just like poverty, domestic violence, drugs, teen pregnancy, lack of higher education, covid19 etc.. are not exclusive to one political party.
Thankfully he had stopped for a few months.
lakewhut picks one example and blows it a million times out of proportion as if that is proof positive that republican states don’t have crime problems.December 26, 2021 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #2045041☕️coffee addictParticipant
“And most Republicans are ganovim and engage in immoral acts…“
Tell that to Bill, Anthony, Andrew, and Hunter along with a long list of famous people who are democrat and were charged with lewd behaviorDecember 26, 2021 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #2045046
AAQ: Obviously there is no objective source of data on convictions under the securities and banking laws, tax code, foreign corrupt practices act, and old fashioned fraud and contract law violations. When I scanned the annual SEC enforcement reports, I didn’t recognize many of the names whose FEC contributions skewed heavily Democratic. My point, as I think you surmised, was a bit sarcastic in terms of the stupidity of painting a poltiical party, racial or religious group etc. with a broad brush and saying that they ALL are X, Y or Z (or maybe all 3)December 26, 2021 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #2045057
GH, that wiki page looked like an objective source, thanks for pushing me to find it.
As to sarcastic point, there are definite perceptions about parties. In addition to crime – based on all the defund police calls, the same small business survey says that 87% of R businessmen think that their party is good for business, while only 63% of D think that theirs is … But I don’t think these perceptions will convince you or, more importantly D- politicos. Most of them seem to think that their only problem is perception – that they don’t explain their wonderful ideas, they just need to explain better (and “educate”) the stubborn electorate. Sad.December 26, 2021 11:48 pm at 11:48 pm #2045073user176Participant
The reality is that democrats (“liberals”) believe their ideology is above the law. What makes sense to them is correct regardless it being illegal. They will tell you that openly and call the offenders hero’s publicly. If in fact the percentage of tax evaders are Republicans, they know they are doing something wrong. After getting caught they won’t say, “well taxes are theft” and no republican will publicly come to their defense.December 26, 2021 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm #2045070DovidBTParticipant
Which political party uses the term “peaceful protest” to describe rioting, looting, burning and other mob violence?
Which political party lets violent criminals out of prison because cash bail is “unfair” to poor people?
Which political party supports “defunding” the police?
Which political party considers it racist if the proportion of black people arrested is greater than the number of white people arrested, even though black people commit far more crimes of violence than white people?
Etc.December 27, 2021 9:39 am at 9:39 am #2045114Yserbius123Participant
Last I checked most of those looters broke and stole less than $900 which, in Los Angeles, is not a crime.December 29, 2021 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #2046291Reb EliezerParticipant
Democrats don’t love crime more than the Republicans just they don’t want that the police should contribute to it.
.December 29, 2021 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #2046317moishyyyyParticipant
I actually had a good laugh reading this, thank you!
Please do your research on the topic before making statements lke this, it is really quite embarrassing 🙂January 2, 2022 5:55 am at 5:55 am #2047156amomParticipant
Reb E- When democrats believe in putting criminals right back on the streets instead of locking them up then the only possible conclusion is that democrats love criminals.January 2, 2022 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #2047498
Where did you get that is what democrat’s believe?
Prove it.January 2, 2022 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #2047510amomParticipant
From states like NY (and other democratic states) who believe very strongly in their no bail law. Like when you have repeat offenders they keep letting them back on the street with no bail. Common knowledgeJanuary 3, 2022 12:26 am at 12:26 am #2047597
amom, you got to take the whole package. These are same democrats that bring all government programs that help you. More “law and order” republicans tend to tie public assistance to work encouragement/requirement. Current welfare work requirements are due to mid 90s Republican reform that reduced number of people on welfare from 13 mln to 3 mln.January 3, 2022 7:07 am at 7:07 am #2047641
Innocent until proven guilty people get bail.
Convicted criminals do not get bail.January 3, 2022 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #2047842ParticipantParticipant
“Last I checked most of those looters broke and stole less than $900 which, in Los Angeles, is not a crime.”
Which makes it even worse.January 3, 2022 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #2047843ParticipantParticipant
Except that it is a crime. Just not a felony.January 3, 2022 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #2047879
> $900 which, in Los Angeles, is not a crime.
Is 4900 a new prutah? checking my watch – how fast is inflation going?January 17, 2022 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #2052010eishis chayilParticipant
????January 18, 2022 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #2052165moishekapoiehParticipant
a terrible headline. shame on you.
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