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Are you democrats with the people or the communist government? שתיקה כהודאה.
Exactly. Democrats and the mainstream media trying oh so desperately to blame the rioting on anything other than the fact that they are being run by a dictatorship. Not great tactic when your going to have to convince voters you aren’t actually pro-communism.
It looks like for now Biden keeps Trump’s sanctions on Cuba in place despite the left wing pressure.
Biden seems not be very creative, but he does not always destroy things. IT may be he is in a political bind, does not want to lose further Hispanic vote that moved slightly Republican way in 2020.Of course these filthy treasonous DemonRats are quiet, these rats are evil Marxists who 100% support the communist dictatorship in Cuba.
Their sole aim is to turn America into the exact same Marxist hell hole as Cuba or VenezuelaThe Democratic party of people such as Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy or Hubert Humphrey is ancient history. Today’s Democrats are socialists. Even those who claim otherwise have accepted the socialist dogma that the state should have a monopoly on decision making, and individuals should be obedient cogs in the state-run system. SO WHY WOULD THE DEMOCRATS BE CRITICAL OF THEIR FELLOW SOCIALISTS IN CUBA.
This whole thread is one big fat lie.
I am no longer surprised by these posts and I have stopped commenting, but even I have a limit when reading lies.
Biden on Twitter yesterday at 11:30 AM.
“We stand with the Cuban people as they bravely assert their fundamental and universal rights, and as they all call for freedom and relief from the tragic grip of the pandemic and from the decades of repression and economic suffering.”Biden in a brief exchange with reporters at the start of a meeting with mayors and law enforcement officials to discuss gun violence in the U.S said ,”“The Cuban people are demanding their freedom from an authoritarian regime. I don’t think we’ve seen anything like this protest in a long long time, if, quite frankly, ever,”
Besides the top Democrat and leader of the free world not being silent, his press secretary also commented.
White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Monday sought to frame the protests being driven by far broader frustration, calling the demonstrations “spontaneous expressions of people who are exhausted with the Cuban government’s economic mismanagement and repression.”
This proud Democrat supports the Cuban protestors and not the Communist government.
BTW supporting social programs does not mean one supports Communism or Marxism despite the posts in this thread.
B”H I make a considerable living and am more than happy to share the majority of it through both tzedaka and taxes that support social programs.
There are plenty in the Yeshiva World who are dependent upon these social programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, Section 8, SNAP, WIC, Sicial Security and rent controlled or stabilized housing
@Jackk
Outspoken socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez remained silent as of early Tuesday about violent protests erupting in Cuba, while Sen. Bernie Sanders finally spoke out — to blame US sanctions rather than decades of Communist dictatorship.“All people have the right to protest and to live in a democratic society,” Sanders tweeted just before midnight Monday of the protests that started Sunday demanding “freedom” and the removal of President Miguel Díaz-Canel.
ctlawyer, I fully agree with you that social programs should not be conflated with support for murderous regimes. In fact, the correlation might have been forgiven in the naïve 19th century, but it is astonishing that same people in US that try to help poor people, also support communist countries.
This is not helping the cause of the poor with the rest of the population. If you know any of these activists, tell them!As to Biden’s position, my info is from trusted lefty rugs, here is what they say:
March Psaki: A Cuba policy shift is not currently among President Biden’s top priorities
almost identical response a month later when pressed for reaction to Raul Castro stepping down as head of Cuba’s Communist Party.
while Biden voiced support for the protesters, describing the protests as a “clarion call for freedom,” much of his policy toward Cuba remains a mystery
questions on Cuba policy come as Biden has left largely intact Trump’s high-pressure, sanctions-heavy campaign against Cuba’s regime, despite campaign promises to the contrary.
They are concerned about the humanitarian crisis unfolding in Cuba and the possibility that it could spill over into a migratory crisisCTLawyer -“There are plenty in the Yeshiva World who are dependent upon these social programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, Section 8, SNAP, WIC, Sicial Security and rent controlled or stabilized housing”
First of all, I’m against Medicaid.
I wrote previously that the Country needs a Good Universal Medical Paying system. Eg. E/o on SuperMedicare.
Get rid of all others – this will make premiums go down. People that are poor won’t have to pay to get on it.Second, all these programs were Created to appease certain segments of the population, not Jews.
Are you such an Antisemite – that you think Jews shouldn’t get them, only others, even though they are within the legal Criteria?!?Jackk, nobody expected Biden and top dems to straight away side with the Cuban government. His response means little. Question here is, why did it take so long for a response from Biden? Why are many democrats, along with the mainsteam media trying to shift the narrative surrounding the protests? Psaki: “There is every indication that yesterday’s protests were spontaneous expressions of people who are exhausted with the Cuban government’s ‘economic mismanagement…” or blaming the protests on “lack of vaccines..”
And oh it might just be worth noting what Psaki actually said about Biden’s statement “The statement…we put out in the president’s name this morning, in his voice of course”…
This is what the New York Times had to say about this “Shouting “Freedom” and other anti-government slogans, hundreds of Cubans took to the streets in cities around the country on Sunday to protest food and medicine shortages….”
Compare this to how all Republicans have responded. The contrast is stunning. Stunning and quite telling.
CTlawyer-The agenda that todays Democrats/socialists push extends far past the governments programs, which I think is really there up for debate. At this point its clear, that the democrat elites, along with the radical left, want to control what you think, control what kids are taught, and crush any opposing opinions. And the values they want the next generation to grow up with is abhorrent and disgusting. “And oh don’t you dear voice your opinion, you filthy racist” is what they tell anyone expressing concern. Pure unmitigated communist style.@chugibugi
I think you’ll find it was filthy treasonist Republicans who stormed the Capitol in the January 6th insurrectionMy post said nothing about supporting or opposing Medicaid. and I don’t care that you oppose it. You manage to partake of it and have for years, per your posts.
Pointing out that may in the Yeshiva World is NOT Anti-Semitic, it points out that all Americans can avail themselves of these social programs if qualified to do so.
I completely disagree with you opinion that all of the social programs I named (and I apologize for the typo in Social) were created to appease someone. I do not believe that to be the case with Social Security, Medicare or Section 8 (of the Housing Act of 1937). Section 8 and Social Security were New Deal programs to help pull the country out of the Great Depression, not appease anyone, Medicare, part of Johnson’s Great Society plan recognized that most American received their healthcare insurance from their employers and there needed to be a mechanism in place to allow retiring workers to BUY hospitalization coverage. I don’t think it was appeasing the elderly.
@1
Most Democrats support social programs and are not the far left wingers you allude to. They are business owners and professionals who are willing to share.BTW>>>>we don’t like kooks, either.
I have repeatedly posted: Bernie Sanders is NOT a Democrat. He is elected as a Socialist and caucuses with the Democrat Party. He attempted to win the Democrat Party nomination to run for President a number of times, and lost. The fact that he temporarily registered as a Democrat in order to get on some primary ballots does not make him a Democrat.
Hello Chugibugi!
“I have repeatedly posted: Bernie Sanders is NOT a Democrat. He is elected as a Socialist and caucuses with the Democrat Party. He attempted to win the Democrat Party nomination to run for President a number of times, and lost. The fact that he temporarily registered as a Democrat in order to get on some primary ballots does not make him a Democrat.“
Does that mean that Democrats are basically socialists light?
Why does he caucus with the Democrats? Because their philosophy is closer to his philosophy
Wouldn’t you say that there’s a fine line between Democrats and socialism?
CTLawyer -” I don’t think it was appeasing the elderly.”
You’re right – it wasn’t just appeasing the elderly – it was appeasing All Libs.
They made Medicaid & Medicare to Push Liberalism on all US citizens!From the NewYorker:
“On July 30th, Johnson signed the Medicare bill, in Independence, Missouri, with former President Harry Truman standing beside him. For the first time, the federal government would play a direct role in the health-care system. Most liberals wanted much more, but they understood that passing Medicare and Medicaid was itself a historic step.
With the passage of Medicare and Medicaid, decades of obstruction came to an end. But turning a legislator like Mills was not easy. Persuasion and negotiation could only go so far. It took a big election, with voters changing the balance of power on Capitol Hill, to get him moving in the right direction.”1, I don’t think you know the difference between sociialism and communism. Communists don’t allow any free enterprise. You are 1 in what?
@1
Your ignorance is glaring. Most Democrats are not Communists. They believe in private ownership of property. Government funded social programs is not Communism.
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Cuban Americans have traditionally been Republicans, unlike most other Hispanic-Americans. They enjoyed more than a half century of preferred immigration rights(foot on dry land equals green card).I think you’ll find it was filthy treasonist Republicans who stormed the Capitol in the January 6th insurrection
That was a direct result of the filthy treasonist Democrats who work in the Capitol aiding and abetting violent criminals in the streets all over the country, and teaching them to hate and rebel against law enforcement officers.
CTL -“Most Democrats are not Communists”
I agree.
They are worse than Commies!
Communism in theory by Marx wasn’t bad.
But the implementation in this world didn’t work out.
The Countries that we call Communist – is really a form of Dictatorship!
That’s what these DemonCrats want.
They want to Control e/o and their Thoughts!
Scary – isn’t it?That’s why these DemonCrats are only Focusing on Jan. 6, but Not on all the Riots by the Left – this year & the last!
I posted this before – to do this is Unconstitutional!
The Constitution says – You must apply the Law equally!
Where are all inquiries about all the Riots?!?The Biden administration came out strongly warning fleeing Cubans that they won’t be allowed into the U.S. Why the double standard when it comes to the southern border?
Answer: because it’s obvious who-Cubans protesting Communism, flying the American flag in the streets-would vote for.@Health
Don’t bother trying to make Constitutional arguments, you are clueless. Congress is focusing in January 6th because their workplace, was stormed. It is federal property in the Federal District of Columbia and it is to be investigated by the federal government.The riots that took place in the streets of cities across the USA are to be investigated by the states, if the riot was not on federal property. It is not the bailiwick of Congress to investigate. The feds can’t prosecute state crimes, it has nothing to do with equal application of the law. Different laws and jurisdictions are in play.
As far as I am concerned any rioter breaking the law anywhere in the USA should be prosecuted fully to the full extent of the applicable law by the appropriate legal authority. BUT>>>protest dopes not always equal riot and is not always illegal. the unlawful entry into the US Capitol on January 6th was criminal activity and should be prosecuted.
I’d also add, that the people who entered the building did so as a means of stopping the election certification by VP Pence.
Why do Democrats want South and central Americans in the country but not Cubans?
Socialism comes down to the idea that the states should make decisions for you. The opposite of socialism is individualism, the idea that each individual can and should make decisions for themselves, and that the government should respect those decisions. By this standard, the Democrats have become very socialistic, feeling the the government should have a monopoly on decision making in most areas of daily life (just like their friends in Cuba).
CTLawyer -“The riots that took place in the streets of cities across the USA are to be investigated by the states, if the riot was not on federal property.
It is not the bailiwick of Congress to investigate. The feds can’t prosecute state crimes, it has nothing to do with equal application of the law. Different laws and jurisdictions are in play.”Typical Lying Lawyer.
From the Justice Dept. Attorney General’s office:
District of Oregon:“74 People Facing Federal Charges for Crimes Committed During Portland Demonstrations
Charges include assaulting federal officers, arson, failing to obey lawful orders, and damaging federal property
U.S. Attorney Billy J. Williams announced today that 74 people are facing federal charges for crimes committed adjacent to or under the guise of peaceful demonstrations in Portland since at least May 29, 2020. For more than 90 consecutive nights, Portland has been home to large demonstrations and protests against police use of force and anti-Black racism. On many nights, after peaceful demonstrations end, various public and private buildings have been the target of vandalism and destruction. Local, state, and federal law enforcement working to protect these buildings and ensure the safety of peaceful demonstrators have been subjected to threats and assaults from violent agitators while performing their duties. “Violent agitators have hijacked any semblance of First Amendment protected activity, engaging in violent criminal acts and destruction of public safety,” said U.S. Attorney Williams. “The U.S. Attorney’s Office and our federal law enforcement partners are expeditiously working with local and state law enforcement to identify, arrest, and prosecute these individuals that are disrupting the rule of law in our communities and physically attacking our law enforcement officers and destroying property. Violent agitators not only delay real reform, but make our community less safe by keeping law enforcement from responding to other critical calls for service.”So why is the Congress having a investigation on Jan. 6 and NOT on the Federal Crimes that were Committed during the Riots of 2020 – 21?
This is a Violation of the Constitution – which demands Equality in Everything that has to do with Law investigation & enforcement!Health- i do remember a time when you used to participate in regular topics and conversations without all the yelling and name calling. It would be nice to have you back again. Care to rejoin?
Ctlawyer sidetracked and I don’t know why health is falling for it
Stick to the topic (unless that’s what lawyers do 🙄)
And just btw both points of mine haven’t been disproven
Why?
BECAUSE THEYRE BOTH TRUE
@Health
I specifically said that if the rioters in the assorted states broke federal laws then that was the business of the federal government to prosecute.
Then you post the State AG notice that rioters who broke federal laws, trespassed on federal property are being prosecuted by the feds. This is exactly what I said should happen.
Not every calls crime for an investigation at the top level. Congress gets to decide which federal issues they wish to investigate, not you.@CoffeeAddict
I and most Dems I know want legal immigrants to be admitted to the USA. We don’t care about their country of origin.BTW…I’ve been to Cuba, both before and after Castro took power. The peons didn’t have it much better under Battista. Thing stink in Central America, Mexico, Cuba, Haiti and the DR. How many times have we invaded and taken over their governments? Too many. The Monroe Doctrine made us worse than European Imperial powers. How long did the banana republics put up with rule by United Fruit Company and the US shipping lines…or Pan American World Airways/Panaga and our friends at the Grace company. We Americans have raped these economies for well over a hundred years…close to 200 in places such as Haiti and it’s coming back to bite us in the backside
@Torahvalues
The Cubans protesting in the streets of Cuba flying US flags would not be voting for anyone in the USA. If they arrived in the US and were allowed to stay, in about 5 years they might become citizens and then adults could vote.
Just showing up in the USA doesn’t make them eligible to voteSyag -“Health- i do remember a time when you used to participate in regular topics and conversations without all the yelling and name calling. It would be nice to have you back again. Care to rejoin?”
Those were the Good Ole Days.
I remember the days when Frum people voted Democrat.
It’s not just their attitude that a Frum guy shouldn’t vote for them, because you could say they don’t know better when it comes to Gay marriage & abortion.
The main thing, since a Guy named Trump joined Politics, the Left & the Media couldn’t find a Nice Word to say about him.
And this isn’t the main thing – the main thing is since he became Political, they have done So many Dirty Things against him.
Starting with the FBI with their Russian Collusion and ending so far with stealing the Election from him.
You can’t pretend that you’re a Democrat and that’s a side point.
I’m not talking about that just Frum Jews can’t vote Democrat anymore, but any Decent Human Being can Not support the Democrat Party as it is – right now!CTLawyer -“Not every calls crime for an investigation at the top level. Congress gets to decide which federal issues they wish to investigate, not you.”
Now you’re finally getting my point!
Since the Congress decided to investigate Jan. 6 & Not other Federal Crimes – now why is that?
It’s because they want to make Right Voters look Bad.
If they cared about the Constitution, they would also investigate all the Anarchy that Occurred from the Left during 2020 – 21.
IMHO, all these Congressmen and women should be Impeached for Not following the Constitution!“I and most Dems I know want legal immigrants to be admitted to the USA. We don’t care about their country of origin.“
Regarding Cubans, there’s the “wet foot dry foot” law which doesn’t apply to central and South America but the Democrats want automatic citizenship for them and the Cubans to stay in their country
@Health
I warned you earlier NOT to try to argue Constitutional items because you know not what you type.
“IMHO, all these Congressmen and women should be Impeached ”Members of Congress are not subject to impeachment,
Article I, section 5 of the United States Constitution provides that “Each House [of Congress] may determine the Rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member.
Way back in 1798 the Senate ruled that its members are not subject to Impeachment, but could only be expelled. At the time they were debating holding an impeachment trial for a member who had already been expelled.Ctlawyer that barely at all takes away from my point. So in 5 yrs they’ll vote. There are currently plenty of voting Americans who come from these type of communist countries, and know that voting republican helps ensure they can keep their newfound freedom.
As a couple of people already posted, I also found it amusing that one of the first things administration is worried about is that Cubans should not try to get to US. I believe it is part of the airport security training that you look at first reaction on person’s face. Similarly here, first reaction is indicative of what these people are thinking about. So, we will now start catching people at the border and checking if they are Cubans before releasing them into US? Would Cubans be faking Mexican accent now?!
CTLawyer -“I warned you earlier NOT to try to argue Constitutional items because you know not what you type.”
So all the DemonCrats could be expuled:
From the internet:
“Under Article I, Section 5, clause 2, of the Constitution, a Member of Congress may be removed from office before the normal expiration of his or her constitutional term by an “expulsion” from the Senate (if a Senator) or from the House of Representatives (if a Representative) upon a formal vote on a resolution agreed to by two-thirds of the Members of that body present and voting. While there are no specific grounds for an expulsion expressed in the Constitution, expulsion actions in both the House and the Senate have generally concerned cases of perceived disloyalty to the United States”
Yes, all the DemonCrats that voted for the investigation of January 6 and Not any other investigations pertaining to other riots by Leftists can be expuled by the rest. I think that what is left is Real Right wingers. It’s Unbelievable that all DemonCrats & some Repos are trashing the Constitution!
This is a good reason to expel these Clowns!@1 “FDR was a light communist as well.”
FDR yemach shemo. was one of the worse anti semites ever to walk the face of the earth, my grandfather was in the Rabbi’s March and heard first hand from him what a piece of garbage that man was. In fact I am sure Stephen Wise, Cordell Hull and FDR get a fresh log daily thown into the fire in the purgatory where they are roasting in for the behavior during the shoahFDR with multiple shortcomings played a major role in both making us fight the war and in prosecuting it successfully. Often at high pain, such as when traveling to see Stalin.
Without his effort, the survivors of the war would be speaking german or russian@Health
Do the math, you can not get a 2/3 majority to expell the majority party in Congress@AAQ, frankly he could not care less if all the Jews were killed so who cares
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