May 4, 2015 3:52 am at 3:52 am #615626maranMember
One of the things that bother me most about the yeshivos today is their slow pace in learning . I know of a yeshiva here in new york that from elul zman till pesach covered only four blatt in the first perek of yevamos and dont thin bekius seder is any better i lnow a yeshiva that covered from elul till pesach in a two and a half hour bekius seder five blatt i calculated that it takes those bochurim over 65 hours a blatt. Im speaking about top yeshivos in town that have top bochurim who are serious about their learning. In my humble opinion nothing will come out of them after a whole year they barely now 20blatt of an entire masechta. And the problem is that they get used to learning this way amd even when they move on to kollel they continue at this ridiculous speed. The other day i was speaking to a rebbi of a top yeshiva in monsey and he told me that he feels empty in his learning because he wasted his bochur years instead of finishing masechtos on lomdus and more lomdus . The thibg is that after speaking to many people i see there are a lot of opinions on the matter . What is yours?May 4, 2015 5:09 am at 5:09 am #1074834RABBAIMParticipant
The question is what is the Hadracha of Gedolim??May 4, 2015 7:50 am at 7:50 am #1074835akupermaParticipant
The caption should have been in the singular. There are many yeshivos today (Baruch ha-Shem) with many styles of learning.May 4, 2015 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #1074836maranMember
To rabbaim 99 percent of the gedolim agree that the pace is too slow there is a sefer igros harav shach wher there is a bunch of letters that he wrote to different roshei yeshivah begging them to go faster and he wrote that he feels if it stays the way it is torah wiil be forgoten nishtacach torah myisroel . There is a damouse shmooze that rav gifter gave in tells its out on tapes and has beennprinted many times over in different seforim he screams that he onve asked a bachur what masechta he learnt last zman and he answered bava kamma r gifter asked him where he got up to abd he told him daf yud alef rav fifter started screaming ” thats called “i learnt bava kamma”? Rav ovadia yosef also in many of his drashos adressed this issue and it has neen printed in the rishon letzion sefer r yitzchak yosef called igeret lben torah .And many more gedolim who hold like this . There is a wondurful sefer called cerem yehoahua there he brings down all the gedolim with the shita of a faster pace
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