Did Russia warn Ukraine before attacking?

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  • #2231815
    yechiell
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    Of course not.
    No warnings, just shoot missiles into crowded cities
    But no one seems to mention that

    #2231821
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Yes

    Russia actually warned Ukraine, they had a massive buildup before they went in

    Just reporting the facts

    #2231822
    Amil Zola
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    Ummm I’m guessing you don’t read or listen to news much. In the run up to the invasion Russia was claiming that its troops were mobilizing for some military training exercise. Newspapers (foreign and domestic) were all reporting on the movement of troops to Ukraine and many predicted the invasion. The writing was on the wall. Are you purposely being obtuse or are you really that pooly uninformed.

    #2231830
    yechiell
    Participant

    guess i was uninformed
    also uniformed with the word obtuse. is that a geometric angle?

    #2231846
    Sam Klein
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    Does anyone even know what Hashems wake up call message is that was sent to klal yisroel the minute the Russian Ukraine war started?

    THE SHOCKING MESSAGE DIRECTLY FROM HASHEM RELATING TO THE RUSSIAN UKRAINE WAR SITUATION.

    World War 1, World War 2 And the Current War of the Invasion of Russia into Ukraine which can Chas Vshalom bring the world today to another world War 3 if we don’t wake ourselves up to serious Teshuva and Achdus together As soon as possible
    All 3 Wars if you put the numbers of the date each war started they all come out to the same Gematria numerical Value number of 68

    World War 1 started on July 28 1914
    That’s 7+28+19+14=68

    World War 2 started on September 1 1939
    That’s 9+1+19+39=68

    Current Russian invasion to Ukraine War started on February 24 2022
    That’s 2+24+20+22=68

    Do you know what’s the Numerical Value of 68? Chaim/Life and what is the Message from Hashem? Hashem runs the entire world from every country to every tiny city to every person’s life and it’s all in the Power and Hands of Hashem the decree of every person like we say on Rosh Hashanah every year Lchaim Vlo Lamavess. (To life and not vice versa to death Chas Vshalom) When Klal yisroel is not doing Teshuva and forgets who really runs the entire world then Hashem has to remind us who is the real ruler of the world by making world wars happen R”L with millions of lives being killed.

    Do YOU think you can find this shocking message in any Sefer in the entire world? Do you think maybe I heard it from a Gadol Hador speaking in a shiur or Shmuz or read it in a newspaper article? And it’s not either from me a internet writer businessman. The only truth is that this shocking message comes DIRECTLY FROM HASHEM and you can just open your eyes and see Hashem directly in the message waiting for all of klal yisroel to gather together for serious Teshuva and Achdus so Hashem can send Mashiach already bkarov.

    May we all do our hishtadlus and show Hashem our loving father that we are deserving and ready for the geula shleima bkarov.

    #2231892
    Kuvult
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    Sam Klein,
    Can you or anyone else explain why when adding the numbers the day numbers are kept together (28 & 24) but when adding the year you separate the numbers (19+39 instead of 1939, 20+22 instead of 2022)? & why split where you did? Perhaps it should be 1+9+3+9?
    When you’re allowed to play fast & loose with numbers you can come up with anything.

    #2231886
    yechiell
    Participant

    keep your gematria to yourself. most of us do not believe in this

    #2231888
    yechiell
    Participant

    sam klein:
    “Do you know what’s the Numerical Value of 68? Chaim/Life”
    WRONG ! CHAI = 18.
    Also, you do gematria on goyish days? ridiculous !

    #2232054
    akuperma
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    Given modern technology, no country can launch a surprise attack involving a large army. Satellites in orbit will see everything. That is why the world press reported the Russian invasion at least a day or two before it happened. Similarly, something such as Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor over 80 years would be impossible in 2023.

    One thing a country can do is limit the attack in size, to basically a glorified commando raid, and to have bases close enough to the border that the other side won’t see the troop movements. This is what Hamas did in Gaza.

    #2233920
    doom777
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    Yes, they spent the entire winter of 2021 telling Ukraine to commit to not joining NATO, or else. Ukraine never committed, and ended up sacrificing 200,000 men, and 20% of its territory.

    #2233940

    I was not happy about people in our communities being insensitive to the suffering of others, but now when essentially the same war came to us, and same uav models bomb Ukrainians and Israelis, this attitude borders on insane.

    Many Israeli politicians took such position based on real politik considerations and it was understandable, although looks mistaken at this point. But any other person who entertained the notion that we could look calmly at cruelty to others nearby, probably is reconsidering right now and the post ^ is an exception.

    #2263520
    Sam Klein
    Participant

    TODAY is the second anniversary of the current Russian Ukraine war still going on and killing thousands of people. Does anyone even remember what the SHOCKING MESSAGE DIRECTLY FROM HASHEM was that came down from Shomayim the minute the war started?

    THE SHOCKING MESSAGE DIRECTLY FROM HASHEM RELATING TO THE RUSSIAN UKRAINE WAR SITUATION.

    World War 1, World War 2 And the Current War of the Invasion of Russia into Ukraine which can Chas Vshalom bring the world today to another world War 3 if we don’t wake ourselves up to serious Teshuva and Achdus together As soon as possible
    All 3 Wars if you put the numbers of the date each war started they all come out to the same Gematria numerical Value number of 68

    World War 1 started on July 28 1914
    That’s 7+28+19+14=68

    World War 2 started on September 1 1939
    That’s 9+1+19+39=68

    Current Russian invasion to Ukraine War started on February 24 2022
    That’s 2+24+20+22=68

    Do you know what’s the Numerical Value of 68? Chaim/Life and what is the Message from Hashem? Hashem runs the entire world from every country to every tiny city to every person’s life and it’s all in the Power and Hands of Hashem the decree of every person like we say on Rosh Hashanah every year Lchaim Vlo Lamavess. (To life and not vice versa to death Chas Vshalom) When Klal yisroel is not doing Teshuva and forgets who really runs the entire world then Hashem has to remind us who is the real ruler of the world by making world wars happen R”L with millions of lives being killed.

    Do YOU think you can find this shocking message in any Sefer in the entire world? Do you think maybe I heard it from a Gadol Hador speaking in a shiur or Shmuz or read it in a newspaper article? And it’s not either from me a internet writer businessman. The only truth is that this shocking message comes DIRECTLY FROM HASHEM and you can just open your eyes and see Hashem directly in the message waiting for all of klal yisroel to gather together for serious Teshuva and Achdus so Hashem can send Mashiach already bkarov.

    May we all do our hishtadlus and show Hashem our loving father that we are deserving and ready for the geula shleima bkarov.

    #2263567
    ujm
    Participant

    Russia and Ukraine are both bad guys, from both a historical and contemporary perspective.

    Ukraine is the worse of the two, especially historically but even contemporarily.

    They’re both made for each other. Let their mutual “love” continue.

    #2263575
    ujm
    Participant

    As to the immediate question at hand, America publicly, strongly and explicitly warned Ukraine for six months before the war that Russia WILL attack them in war. And the idiot Zelenaky kept publicly replying up to the day of the invasion “no way, Russia is just trying to scare us but will keep the peace.”

    #2263795

    It is probably very disruptive to the ujm household when his russian wife disagrees with his ukrainian one. Overall, it seems that after Oct 7, number of yidden willing to say that who cares about some wars hundreds of km from us …. As R Avigdor Miller says – if something is happening in Viet Nam, take it ti heart and learn a lesson, otherwise H’V the next lesson will move closer. R Soloveitchik writes on Megilas Esther that in all times Jews should not delude themselves that world events do not affect us.

    #2263945
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    If Russia wins in Ukraine, then their next targets for conquest are:
    Moldova, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Hungary, etc, etc,etc.

    For that reason, Russia must not be allowed to win in Ukraine.

    If Russia wins in Ukraine, then China is more likely attack Taiwan,
    and North Korea is more likely to attack South Korea, etc, etc,etc.

    For that reason, Russia must not be allowed to win in Ukraine.

    #2263948
    ujm
    Participant

    SR: How do you define “win”? Does Russia win and Ukraine lose if at the end of this war Russia controls more Ukrainian territory than it did in 2021? Than in 2013? Is the only definition of Russia losing if it loses every inch of Ukrainian territory it is occupying?

    Also, it is rather highly unlikely Russia will go after any country that’s part of NATO. Even if it wins in Ukraine.

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