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    The Muslims want to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth — wow, what a difference that would make….


    I thought you would be interested in reading this… (What a contrast!)

    How could the picture be ‘painted’ any more vividly? not including even Frum Jews

    The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000

    ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world’s population.

    They have received the following Nobel Prizes:


    1988 – Najib Mahfooz


    1978 – Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat

    1990 – Elias James Corey

    1994 – Yaser Arafat:

    1999 – Ahmed Zewai






    1960 – Peter Brian Medawar

    1998 – Ferid Mourad



    The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000.

    Only FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world’s population.

    They have received the following Nobel Prizes:


    1910 – Paul Heyse

    1927 – Henri Bergson

    1958 – Boris Pasternak

    1966 – Shmuel Yosef Agnon

    1966 – Nelly Sachs

    1976 – Saul Bellow

    1978 – Isaac Bashevis Singer

    1981 – Elias Canetti

    1987 – Joseph Brodsky

    1991 – Nadine Gordimer World


    1911 – Alfred Fried

    1911 – Tobias Michael Carel Asser

    1968 – Rene Cassin

    1973 – Henry Kissinger

    1978 – Menachem Begin

    1986 – Elie Wiesel

    1994 – Shimon Peres

    1994 – Yitzhak Rabin


    1905 – Adolph Von Baeyer

    1906 – Henri Moissan

    1907 – Albert Abraham Michelson

    1908 – Gabriel Lippmann

    1910 – Otto Wallach

    1915 – Richard Willstaetter

    1918 – Fritz Haber

    1921 – Albert Einstein

    1922 – Niels Bohr

    1925 – James Franck

    1925 – Gustav Hertz

    1943 – Gustav Stern

    1943 – George Charles de Hevesy

    1944 – Isidor Issac Rabi

    1952 – Felix Bloch

    1954 – Max Born

    1958 – Igor Tamm

    1959 – Emilio Segre

    1960 – Donald A. Glaser

    1961 – Robert Hofstadter

    1961 – Melvin Calvin

    1962 – Lev Davidovich Landau

    1962 – Max Ferdinand Perutz

    1965 – Richard Phillips Feynman

    1965 – Julian Schwinger

    1969 – Murray Gell-Mann

    1971 – Dennis Gabor

    1972 – William Howard Stein

    1973 – Brian David Josephson

    1975 – Benjamin Mottleson

    1976 – Burton Richter

    1977 – Ilya Prigogine

    1978 – Arno Allan Penzias

    1978 – Peter L. Kapitza

    1979 – Stephen Weinberg

    1979 – Sheldon Glashow

    1979 – Herbert Charles Brown

    1980 – Paul Berg

    1980 – Walter Gilbert

    1981 – Roald Hoffmann

    1982 – Aaron Klug

    1985 – Albert A. Hauptman

    1985 – Jerome Karle

    1986 – Dudley R. Herschbach

    1988 – Robert Huber

    1988 – Leon Lederman

    1988 – Melvin Schwartz

    1988 – Jack Steinberger

    1989 – Sidney Altman

    1990 – Jerome Friedman

    1992 – Rudolph Marcus

    1995 – Martin Perl

    2000 – Alan J. Heeger


    1970 – Paul Anthony Samuelson

    1971 – Simon Kuznets

    1972 – Kenneth Joseph Arrow

    1975 – Leonid Kantorovich

    1976 – Milton Friedman

    1978 – Herbert A. Simon

    1980 – Lawrence Robert Klein

    1985 – Franco Modigliani

    1987 – Robert M. Solow

    1990 – Harry Markowitz

    1990 – Merton Miller

    1992 – Gary Becker

    1993 – Robert Fogel


    1908 – Elie Metchnikoff

    1908 – Paul Erlich

    1914 – Robert Barany

    1922 – Otto Meyerhof

    1930 – Karl Landsteiner

    1931 – Otto Warburg

    1936 – Otto Loewi

    1944 – Joseph Erlanger

    1944 – Herbert Spencer Gasser

    1945 – Ernst Boris Chain

    1946 – Hermann Joseph Muller

    1950 – Tadeus Reichstein

    1952 – Selman Abraham Waksman

    1953 – Hans Krebs

    1953 – Fritz Albert Lipmann

    1958 – Joshua Lederberg

    1959 – Arthur Kornberg

    1964 – Konrad Bloch

    1965 – Francois Jacob

    1965 – Andre Lwoff

    1967 – George Wald

    1968 – Marshall W. Nirenberg

    1969 – Salvador Luria

    1970 – Julius Axelrod

    1970 – Sir Bernard Katz

    1972 – Gerald Maurice Edelman

    1975 – Howard Martin Temin

    1976 – Baruch S. Blumberg

    1977 – Roselyn Sussman Yalow

    1978 – Daniel Nathans

    1980 – Baruj Benacerraf

    1984 – Cesar Milstein

    1985 – Michael Stuart Brown

    1985 – Joseph L. Goldstein

    1986 – Stanley Cohen (& Rita Levi-Montalcini)

    1988 – Gertrude Elion

    1989 – Harold Varmus

    1991 – Erwin Neher

    1991 – Bert Sakmann

    1993 – Richard J. Roberts

    1993 – Phillip Sharp

    1994 – Alfred Gilman

    1995 – Edward B. Lewis


    The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!

    The Jews don’t hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew that has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew that protests by killing people.

    The Jews don’t traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

    Perhaps the world’s Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

    Muslims must ask ‘what can they do for humankind’ before they demand that humankind respects them!!

    Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, the following two sentences really say it all:

    -Benjamin Netanyahu


    Here we go again. This list is missing a lot of Muslim Nobel Prize winners. Here are just a few:

    Abdus Salam (Physics, 1979)

    Shirin Ebadi (Peace, 2003) (She is an Iranian currently in exile for her opposition to the despotic regime there.)

    Muhammad ElBaradei (Peace, 2005)

    Muhammad Yunus (Peace, 2006) (He is actually an economist.)

    Orhan Pamuk (Literature, 2006)

    Also, Ahmed Zewail (not Zewai) won the prize for Chemistry, not Peace, in 1999.

    This thread should be closed and lies like this should be banned from the site. It discredits us.


    Well Charlie, to discredit it totally, why don’t you post the full list of Moslem recipients.

    ☕️coffee addict

    charlie you forgot OBAMA as someone that got the nobel peace prize 😉 but seriously that’s the reason why this thread should be closed b/c the nobel prize means nothing anymore (at least in regard to peace)


    Charlie, the numbers are still a staggering contrast even with the 5 you added. And it would take many more to make it even close considering the vast proportional difference in total population numbers.

    So let’s not be disingenuous.


    I’m not enamored of these kinds of lists because yeah, it shows, how over the last century we Jews were into bettering the world, but there’s a lot more to our history, and a lot more to who we are now. Not to mention the fact that sometimes unworthy people can win these prizes too.

    But anyway, to paraphrase a joke, if you don’t know the difference I’m not sending you grocery shopping.


    The ikar point is…

    It would NOT matter if they won hundreds of Nobel prizes and we won zero.

    We are not in a competition for Nobel prizes with yishmaelim.

    The Torah calls yishmaelim “pereh-adam” for good reason.

    As Rav Meir Kahane zatzvk”l said…

    “One of the great problems with Americans is that – being a decent people – they assume that everyone else is equally decent.”

    Sadly, America, the world, and even MANY Jews, still don’t get it.


    I can’t believe that people are justifying lies.

    How about a list of observant orthodox Jewish Nobel Prize winners? There may be more religious Muslims to have won Nobel Prizes than religious Jews.



    You forgot to mention Ernest B. Chain who shared the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 1945 with Sir Alexander Fleming, Ernst B. Chain, Sir Howard Florey


    Fleming would have never discovered penicilin without Ernest B. Chain.

    Ernest B. Chain was a member of the famous

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    Who were Geonim Adirim.


    Whats the purpose of this thread?

    We should be proud of our spiritual achievements. Forget the nobel peace prizes. How about the fact that we taught the concept of morality and monotheism to the world? We gave the world a conscience.



    Also you forgot to mention a number of Jews who won the “Fields” prize in mathematics:

    The Fields Medals are commonly regarded as mathematics’ closest analog to the Nobel Prize (which does not exist in mathematics), and are awarded every four years by the International Mathematical Union to one or more outstanding researchers. “Fields Medals” are more properly known by their official name, “International medals for outstanding discoveries in mathematics.”



    I agree with Charlie Hall. Nevertheless, it is heartwarming that YWN is willing to acknowledge the inherent value of a Nobel Prize.

    so right

    SZ: What “inherent value” of the Yasir Arafat Piece Prize?


    You would need 85 muslims to win for every one win from an orthodox jew. And Im pretty sure there is at least one orthodox jew on that list.

    However I agree that such comparisons are childish.


    The terribly inaccurate list does not include the most famous of all Orthodox Jews to have recently won a Nobel Prize: Dr. Robert Aumann, who shared the Economics prize in 2005. They actually delayed the start of the ceremony until the end of Shabat for him. Not only is he frum; he is a graduate of the Rabbi Jacob Joseph Yeshiva!

    Rosalyn Sussman Yalow was a physicist who won the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1977. (The inaccurate list misspelled her name.) She was a long time member of an Orthodox synagogue in the Bronx that I often attend. The social hall there is named for her. Her father in law was an Orthodox rabbi.


    Bottom line is, whether we are talking about Bukharians or Chinese or arabs, vs. Jews is A GOY IS A GOY. You will never see voluntary deeds done by them especially Arabs such as building hospitals, institutions to help people, etc. as the Yidden do. Just look at Bikkur Cholim alone. Would you ever see such an operation in Jordan or Saudi Arabia? You only see them destroying as the malach who told Hagar that Yishmael will be a wild a** of a man, his hand against everyone etc…


    Bukharians are mostly Jewish.

    Dave Hirsch

    Charlie, if you are ever to receive a nobel prize, would you want to be on the Jewish list or Muslim list? Your posts suggest the latter…


    Dave, you might be angry at charlyhall for his sin of being a Democrat, but he didn’t mention anything about the Arabs being better than anyone. He doesn’t like watching people falling for garbage propaganda, and neither do I.


    Want to hear something a bit profound?

    In my opinion, the main difference between Jews (frum Jews) and Muslims (frum Moslims) is that at its essence, Islam glorifies death and the greatest achievement a Muslim can attain is Martyrdom. On the other hand Yiddishkiet is the polar opposite, yes its a huge mitzvah to die al kiddush Hashem but the greatest achievement for a Yid is to live al kiddush Hashem, Vchai Bahem (vlo Sheyamus Bahem) Uvacharta Bachayim. We glorify life. Chayei Oilum Nota Besoicheinu. Judaism is all about life!


    In what sense are we the same that there has to be a discussion about how we are different. What’s the difference between a toothpick and a kangaroo?

    Dave Hirsch

    HaLeivi, I, actually, admire many democrats and have been influenced by many of them. I don’t consider the fact that a person can express his opinion and vote that way, a sin. However, I do consider someone that hates others’ opinions for unfound reasons, a sinner; liberals tend to do just that. Someone compiled a nice and creative list that highlights the differences between the ‘Am Hanivchar’ and the ‘Pere Adam’. Obviously, some of us didn’t like that idea. But to demand that he be shut up? That is liberalism!


    An email forward like this (because that’s what the article smells like) only promotes hate. I’m not advocating loving Muslims but putting all Muslims in one category like that implies that all Muslims have the same beliefs. Just like all Umos Haolam, there are good Arabs and there are unfortunately terrorists. Yes, majority of terrorists are Muslims but not the majority of Muslims are terrorists. And the main difference between Jews and Muslims is that Islam is a religion and the Judaism is what ties us together as a nation.

    BTW, it was Golda Meir who quoted “If all Arabs…”


    WIY: Despite what popular Western conceptions of Islam may suggest, the greatest achievement a Muslim can achieve is not to die a martyr. In Islam, martyrdom is desirable only under specific conditions (i.e., when Muslim communities are under threat of attack by non-Muslims, or when the Umma – the Muslim equivalent to the Promised Land is occupied and governed by non-Muslims). Even under these conditions, there are many rules of Islamic law that govern when martyrdom is appropriate.

    I dont know if the mods will let this post through (they don’t seem to have posted my last comment mentioning some similarities between our own practices and those of Muslims), but I hope they do.

    I am writing this based on my own knowledge of Islamic law, which I have studied quite a bit (I think its best to fully understand other peoples, especially those that we have difficulties with, and especially those whose beliefs and practices are nuanced, complex, very old, and easily distorted and simplified by propaganda). My point here is not to justify or defend the actions of many Muslims. Rather, I hope to point out that if we want to deal with a problem, its best not to demonize it, simplify it, and then rest our proposed solutions on false understandings of what we face. It is far better to try to understand the nuanced reality of Islamic belief and practice, so that we can honestly evaluate where we stand and how we can deal with these issues.

    Ok, here come the attacks (except perhaps from charliehall)

    ☕️coffee addict

    In Islam, martyrdom is desirable only under specific conditions (i.e., when Muslim communities are under threat of attack by non-Muslims, or when the Umma – the Muslim equivalent to the Promised Land is occupied and governed by non-Muslims).

    this can only hold true for Israel, or Iraq or Afghanistan, this wouldn’t be able to support terrorism in other countries i.e. Times square (even if you want to include America it’s only officers stationed in Iraq or Afghanistan)



    I dont know…September 11 had Muslims all over the world (especially local communities in NYC) celebrating they were quite happy with the death and destruction…and martyrdom and whatever else.

    Yes you are right theres more to their religion. Cutting off hands for stealing. Treating women worse than excrement. Beating their wives mercilessly for the most insignificant “crimes”…Ill find you some more of their holy mitzvos shortly…bli neder.


    Sorry not all names of jews were mentioned. And yes this is not my list but a email I received



    I have not studied Islam. I don’t know the five pillars of Islam, and I don’t know the significance of the Kabbaa.

    Nonetheless, I do know what the Moslems are doing, because I do study the world. It is clear that Jihad is the driving force in Islam today, and that the majority of Moslems support it. It is clear that martyrdom is seen as the ultimate sacrifice to Allah in this Jihad.

    So, I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. I don’t care if the Moslems have Islam wrong. I have nothing against Islam, only against Moslems; is that better?

    so right

    charlie: you should ask the mods to add a subtitle to your name of “muslim apologist”. actually it could be made more generic as “gentile apologist”.

    Dying al kiddish Hashem IS the highest thing to which a Jew can aspire. But that dying comes from being murdered by a gentile; NOT by murdering a gentile via suicide.

    ☕️coffee addict

    And remember that we honor those who die al kiddush HaShem. I have even heard shiurim by rabbonim saying that that is the highest thing to which a Jew can aspire.

    you should be ashamed of yourself charlie!!! comparing jews that die Al Kiddush Hashem to arabs that kill in the name of G-d one is a proactive role one is an active role



    “I think RSRH is correct. And remember that we honor those who die al kiddush HaShem. I have even heard shiurim by rabbonim saying that that is the highest thing to which a Jew can aspire.”

    You are likely referring to rabbi Akiva and the Asara Heirugei Malchus where Rabbi Akiva was smiling while reciting Shema as the Romans brutally combed his flesh off his body, so his students asked him how could he smile? So he told his students “I waited my whole life to be Mekayem To love Hashem with all my heart and with all my soul (nafshecha) now that I get that opportunity I shouldnt smile?”

    But in essence we dont want to die. We dont ask Hashem please send non Jews to kill us so we can die Al Kiddush Hashem. The greatest accomplishment a Jew can achieve is living like a Jew keeping the Torah and growing in Torah and Mitzvah observance. Living with mesiras nefesh and not allowing himself to get lost in the Tayvos and materialism of America. We dont “want” to die. We want to live and do Mitzvos!!!

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