November 17, 2015 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm #1113157[email protected]Participant
I assume that more information was posted other than that he lives in Monsey, but that it was censored.
That is all the information posted, unless a different moderator removed more which I did not see. -100
What does mother / mother mean?
Where can I find these takonos?November 17, 2015 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #1113158JosephParticipant
Father/Father, Mother/Mother means the two Oberlander fathers walk the Choson to the chupa and the two mothers walk the Kallah to the chupa.
Just like by the Chasidim.November 18, 2015 12:19 am at 12:19 am #1113159
A simple google search with his name as spelled in the post above and Monsey
brings up his address and telephone number, assuming it’s current.November 18, 2015 10:30 am at 10:30 am #1113160555Participant
I know of yekkes who used to walk down mother/mother, father/father back in germany. The yekkes i know who made indoor Chupas made it in a hall that the roof opens(sort of like a built in succah).
The truth is the word ‘Yekke’ today means something very different from yrs ago. It used to mean the modern of German Jewry. which by definition would passel all their minhagim. Haskalla was the strongest in Germany and many left their minhagim, or at least changed it somewhat. As posted earlier, one of the changes was to cut their jackets resulting in the name ‘Yekke’. Not all jews in Germany cut their jacket or changed minhagim. If you want to know true old German Jews’ minhagim contact Rav Elyakim Schlesinger in London.
The Ch”S himself was from Frankfurt,Germaqny. That’s where his minhagim come from,(except the takonos he implemented against Haskala)
Other minhagim like gebraks, The Ch”S himself did and as far as i know most Oberland did but ‘Yekkes’ (like Schlesingers in London) do not cook or bake with gebroks, dip and eat they do.
But they’re from Hamburg not Frankfurt.November 18, 2015 11:04 pm at 11:04 pm #1113161[email protected]Participant
To the best of my knowledge the Chasam Sofer was very mapkid not to change the original minhogim of oberland. Ehrlau follow his minhogim and those are originally from Frankfurt, not the minhogei oberland.November 19, 2015 2:40 am at 2:40 am #1113162555Participant
I personally was not in Ehrlau to know which minhagim he keeps. but i heard they wear a Shtreimel which is definitely not Minhag Frankfurt.
I did not read it, But you can try ??”? ?’ ??? ?????. Or maybe its just ?????? ?’ ??? ?????. He was the Rebbe of the Ch”S.
But there wasn’t much difference like i said German Jews became modern and left their minhagim.
Ch”S einiklech do not use a whimple. They use a gartel.
The Oberlander you know eat gebroks or not?
Today after WWII most people are mixed. They married and took minhagim from the other side. across all boarders. Litvish, polish, Yekkish, Oberland, Unterland, Sefaradim………November 19, 2015 3:54 am at 3:54 am #1113163
555: just noticed your question to me from 2 days ago.
I was referring to Hungary between both World Wars because several Hungarian family members from different sides (Holocaust survivors) that were NOT CHASIDISH shaved and I was always told that that was the Minhag in Hungary.
Austria especially Vienna was more modern, so though I’m sure there were many ehrliche women that did shave, I presume they were not the majority. As you pointed out it was originally one empire, yet I can’t say that the same Minhag was true there before WWII. Perhap’s during the Chasam Sofer’s time it was different, but I really don’t know.November 20, 2015 1:02 am at 1:02 am #1113164JosephParticipant
Even postwar there are non-chasidic women who today follow the Chasam Sofer’s position and shave.November 20, 2015 4:39 am at 4:39 am #1113165
Joseph: Of course. I was specifically responding to 555’s question about which years IN HUNGARY women shaved. The women I knew shaved POST WAR because they continued their family minhag to do so.
I don’t think there are many who do in Hungary nowadays…
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