Do people who are uglier have more yiras shomayim?

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  • #612038

    popa_bar_abba
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    It seems like the knee jerk reaction to someone wanting to marry someone good looking, or rich, or from a good family, is that they should look for someone with yiras shomayim.

    Is it then true that the ugly poor people with horrible parents have more yiras shomayim?

    Well, then maybe I want a terrible wife so that my kids will have more yiras shomayim. And that’s why I’m gunning for good looking one with oodles of cash.

    #1002054

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Lol, when you do get married, popa, I suggest you don’t tell your mother in law your username, otherwise when she sees this post, she’ll disown you.

    #1002055

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I’ll be fine. Syag has already seen everything.

    #1002056

    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    I thought we agreed to keep this between us. You really ARE horrible.

    #1002057

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Right. That’s why she keeps on saying she’ll never let you go out with her daughter.

    Take my advice on this one, popa. It’s not worth getting on your MIL’s bad side.

    #1002058

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    It depends if you consider me good-looking.

    #1002059

    BoruchSchwartz
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    echad hamarbeh v’echad hamamit, k’dai rabi shimon lismoch alov b’shaas hadchak

    #1002060

    yungermanS
    Participant

    yes actually they do have more yiraas shamayim, but based on a different reason.

    with their low life style & low image they learn how to look at everything positive i.e. look at everything they have & not vice versa, everything they are missing like regular people,

    & appreciate everything Hashem gives them every day.

    to help you understand this better. here is an example:

    #1002061

    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    Isn’t there a story that R’ Yochanan said that if he was less handsome, he would have learned more Torah?

    #1002062

    I am ugly. Do I have Yiras Shomaim?

    #1002063

    2ND OPPINION
    Participant

    All of the prophetesses were known to be beautiful… Some were wealthy too.

    #1002064

    LevAryeh
    Member

    This question makes no sense because I’m super good-looking and I have loads and loads of yiras shamayim.

    #1002065

    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    LAB, this thread was about girls, so unless your subtitle is true…

    #1002066

    I thought this thread was gonna be a question on ??? ???…??? ???? ?’ ??? ?????… 🙂

    #1002067

    Health
    Participant

    Ugly people have more YS because they constantly question Hashem -Why me? Why me?

    The more you talk to Hashem, the closer you become to him!

    #1002068

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    No, because the person who is considered ugly is fortunate to be behind his face and not facing it.

    #1002069

    rebyidd23:

    Problem is I have to face that face every time I come in close proximity with a mirror. UCH!!

    #1002070

    Trust 789
    Member

    Every person is beautiful. There are no ugly people. Only people who have bad middos are ugly. So the answer is no. The opposite. Ugly people are those that have no Yiras Shamayim.

    #1002071

    Trust 789
    Member

    YungermanS: Your post was beautiful except for this part:

    Cell phones are a huge yetzer hara, and people love them. If people would have to be disconnected from their cell 8 hours every day (besides sleeping time), they would appreciate their life a whole lot more and realize that the cell is and should be used for convenience, and possibly it won’t take over their life like has happened to too many people.

    #1002072

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Are there also no short people? Only people who have small minds are short. So the answer is no. Short people are those who have no yiras shamayim.

    And no poor people. Only those who have poor manners are poor.

    And no sick people. Only those who have sick minds are sick.

    And no stupid people. Only those who have stupid character are stupid.

    And no dictionary meanings. Only those that sound cliche are dictionary.

    #1002073

    Trust 789
    Member

    Short people. You can measure a person’s height and look at a chart to determine if the person is short.

    poor people – are people living in poverty poor? Their are guidelines for who falls under poverty level.

    Sick people – A doctor will diagnose a sick person. Insurance has coverage for sick visit or well visit. there are hospitals for mentally ill.

    Stupid people. There are measurements for IQ.

    I have never ever heard of guidelines, measurements or levels for what constitutes ugliness. Facial ugliness is an opinion only.

    #1002074

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    There are many techniques which can be used to eliminate mirrors. I shattered mine by dropping them.

    #1002075

    2ND OPPINION
    Participant

    Trust- that is so true. “Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.”

    #1002076

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    There are plenty of ways to measure ugliness in an objective fashion.

    BMI, straightness of teeth, smoothness of face, relative size of nose, etc, etc, etc.

    But that isn’t the point. Is the dictionary wrong on anything which can’t be measured through objective criteria? Would you say there is no bad tasting food, only distasteful people? Just because you can’t objectively measure whether it tastes bad means the dictionary definition is incorrect and you can substitute anyone you want?

    #1002077

    rebyidd23:

    Again, that ugly face follows me around at all places, all halls where the walls are bedecked with mirrors. Should I go on a rampage and …

    #1002078

    Trust 789
    Member

    BMI, straightness of teeth, smoothness of face, relative size of nose, etc, etc, etc.

    It’s a personal opinion. There are no rules for what constitute prettiness or ugliness. Some people think fat people are more beautiful than thin. You can not determine beauty by how wide the nose is, nor how smooth the skin is.

    Would you say there is no bad tasting food,?

    Yes, I would say so. All food that Hashem created is good (except if it’s bad for your health). A food can taste very sharp, very spicy, but bad? That is in a person’s personal taste. And I think we should all appreciate all the food Hashem gave us, and not call food bad. I don’t like liver, that doesn’t mean it tastes bad. Other people think it is delicious.

    If you call a person ugly, there are others who might think that person is beautiful.

    To call a person ugly, is an ugly think to do (even if it’s not to their face)

    P.S. I know a few people who don’t have nice straight teeth, and they are gorgeous.

    #1002079

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I didn’t call anyone ugly, and I think you are correct that it is a subjective term. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

    #1002080

    A person can look ugly or beautiful depending on the perspective of the viewer. A trait that one person considers ugly may be beautiful in the eyes of another person.

    However, there is no denying that there is such a thing as “conventional beauty”. I believe there have been scientific studies analyzing the criteria that make up a conventionally beautiful or classically handsome person.

    #1002081

    Trust 789
    Member

    I didn’t mean to imply that you called anyone ugly.

    You asked “Do people who are uglier have more yiras shomayim?”

    I would change that to, “Do people who think they are ugly have more yiras shomayim?”

    Unfortunately, there are people who are actually beautiful that think they are ugly.

    #1002082

    not a mod
    Member

    All food that Hashem created is good (except if it’s bad for your health)-Trust789

    Even if the food is bad for your health it could still be good (in proportions). Like for simchas, Shabbos or Yom Tov.

    In any case, this thread is clearly just a mockery/joke that PBA made, which people took way to seriously (the hashkafa was very nice and true, but PBA was not even close to serious- hence that fact he implied he doesn’t want to have kids who are yirei shamyim).

    #1002083

    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    Popa, so trolls have a lot of Yiras Shamayim?

    #1002084

    WIY
    Member

    not a mod

    There is no food that Hashem created that is unhealthy (unless an individual person is allergic to it). What’s unhealthy is how we go and prepare that food and ruin any healthy benefits it contained.

    #1002085

    oyyoyyoy
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    new tactful way to say no to a girl, “she has to much yiras shamayim”

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