June 17, 2011 12:30 am at 12:30 am #597452RedNails19Participant
Whats your take on Non-jews knowing too much or getting too chummy with Jews/Judaism?
Take for example; neighbores, work-mates, store owners, working in religeous enviroment, schools etc.
They start saying Jewish words, singing out songs, joining Jewish functions etc.
I remember in my High School ther was a Muslim worker who knew/knows a little too much about Judaism- tsnius, shabbos, y’t..and jokes about it as if hes part of K’Y!June 17, 2011 12:39 am at 12:39 am #811438anonymrsParticipant
i dont get the problem…..June 17, 2011 12:40 am at 12:40 am #811439Cinci BengalMember
So long as they know about Judaism in a positive light, It is okay with me.June 17, 2011 12:58 am at 12:58 am #811440flyerParticipant
rednails19 – Did you go to MBYHBHSFGO??June 17, 2011 2:13 am at 2:13 am #811441always runs with scissors fastParticipant
Oh my, I have a story. We once got this crazy goyter, and she was like trying to show me that she was able to be like us. She would talk yiddish words to the children, or question and initiate inquisitvely about our customs, recipes.
I got rid of her when she pushed the last button. She left a hand written note in my door one day that the Jewish Public Library holds “learn Yiddish” courses for beginners on wednesdays and if I want she can take my children there on the bus.. and bring them home safely too.
Well, considering we are a yiddish speaking family living amongst chassidim and that we really didn’t need her offer. That wasn’t why I got rid of her. IT WAS JUST WEIRD!!!!June 17, 2011 2:18 am at 2:18 am #811442toomuch00Member
omg! rednail AND flyer- you both went to MBYHBHSFGO that means!! lolJune 17, 2011 2:28 am at 2:28 am #811443minyan galMember
One of the caretakers at my shul (he has been there over 20 years) told me that after working there for only a week, he just had to find out what “oy vey” meant because he heard it constantly. Then he said that after he had been there a couple of months, he started saying it, if something went wrong and still uses the phrase to this day.June 17, 2011 3:19 am at 3:19 am #811444always runs with scissors fastParticipant
I heard a very funny cheder story.
In williamsburg a caretaker from the Satmar cheyder asked some 10 or 12 yr old boys “How can I say in Yiddish GOOD MORNING to the rabbi?”
So the boys told him “Ich bin a putz”.
So the next day they are all sitting in class learning and the caretaker/janitor comes along with his mop in the hall, outside the classroom door and gives a big smile and waves to the Rebbe calling out “ICH BIN A PUTZ”
The rebbe knew the boys were behind this.June 17, 2011 4:47 am at 4:47 am #8114452qwertyParticipant
I think the more they know us or about us the less hatred there will be towards us. Think of some other nations or types of people who are different from us and we might think they are strange. But once we get to know some of them we start realizing that they aren’t so different and they can also be nice people.
That’s why i think its best for us not to get to know them so well so it shouldn’t lead to mingling.
(btw, I’m a guy and even i know about Ali)June 17, 2011 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm #811446the.nurseMember
“rednails19 – Did you go to MBYHBHSFGO??”
haha, flyer, i went there.
only someone who went there would know what those initials stand for. LOL.June 17, 2011 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #811447veteranMember
…or anyone who has access to Google. I realize that somewhat limits things, but not as much as you may think.June 17, 2011 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #811448REALISTMember
“only someone who went there would know what those initials stand for.”
WELL, I CERTAINLY DIDN’T ATTEND.
I WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ADMITTED BECAUSE OF THE ‘O’ IN YOUR ACRONYM.
AND OLLIE’S A GOOD GUY, (FOR A MUSLIM).
PLANTED NICE FLOWERS IN FRONT TOO!
(SO MUCH FOR YOUR SECRET!)June 17, 2011 6:19 pm at 6:19 pm #811449RedNails19Participant
YES!!! I WENT TO MBYHBHSFGO!!!!
AHAHAHAHA HS REUNION!!! LOL
And all you girls know the Infamous Ali!!!June 17, 2011 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #811450bptParticipant
The troubling example I know of with this, is when goyish kitchen workers ( in halls, schools, hotels) tell the new “mashgiach / kitchen manager” oh, don’t worry about this or, its ok if I do that…the other rabbi paskined its ok”, or “its only d’rabannon, you don’t have to throw it out”.
And he say it with such conviction, the new hire believes it!June 17, 2011 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #811451StuffedCabbageParticipant
idk i think its crazy it scares me a bit how our janitor almost knows gemara im serious! he reds the girls in school shidduchim and wishes everyone hatzlacha raba on their tests…funny at first but a little weird…September 21, 2011 12:58 am at 12:58 am #811452REALISTMember
As a property manager of a frum developement I walked into an apartment with my Mexican super to do some work.
On the wall is a picture of Reb Shaya’le Kerestirer.
This goy looks at it and says to me,
“I no believe dis lady have mouses”!!!!!
You tell me. Do they know too much?September 21, 2011 1:12 pm at 1:12 pm #811453Raphael KaufmanMember
There were many Gentiles would learned some Yiddish from working for, or around, Jews. a famous one is Colin Powell who, in his youth, was a Shabbos Goy in Washington Hights. Back in Der Heim (well the part for Der Heim my family comes from) there were many majority Jewish towns and even major cities. Both Minsk and Pinsk were majority Jewish (Pinsk was 70% Jewish). In such a milieu, Yiddish was the lingua franca and most of the non-Jews spoke it as well.September 21, 2011 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #811454shmoelMember
Munkatch too was a major city, majority Orthodox Jewish.September 21, 2011 2:09 pm at 2:09 pm #811455adorableParticipant
as long as they are not stepping on your toes and telling you what to do whats the big deal?September 21, 2011 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm #811456ha ha ha haMember
i think yiddishkiet is a priviledge and it gets cheapened when every “tom dick or harry” knows stuff besides its freaky
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