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The news is so unpredictable, and the world is one small attack away from World War 3.
Almost everyone in the world assumes the next world war is coming sooner then later, and the only question is when.
We have also been taught before Mashiach there will be a world war.
Point is this. I honestly believe there is more than a 50% chance that moshiach will be here within 12 months. I’m not ready to bet on it, which is why I still am working on advancing my career and living as though life today will be the same more or less the next couple of years.
I am against those that Guarantee it will be here within days as that helps no one (the gemataria of October 7 spelled with an Ayin equals…..)
My question is, am I the only one that feels this way? I hardly hear of anyone talking about the possibility of his imminent arrival, as opposed to when Covid happened.
I believe that the potential is there. It’s up to us to do what is necessary to bring him, though.
this website is for frum Jews. If we are part of “am yisroel” it is a fundamental belief that moshiach can come any day and that we don’t known when it will happen.
I do too
(Was actually hoping when Iran shot those missiles and one went to the Har Habayis it would knock out the mosque
I fear that Klal Yisrael has many more evils to undergo before Moshiach comes. But I believe he CAN come today or tomorrow, as we are ,mechuyav to believe. I will be amazed if it happens, but not shocked.
I don’t know, only hashem and the marvelous middos machine know.
Why so long?? I expect Moshiach to be here in three days.
He could arrive in the next five minutes.
Mashiach is already waiting to come on a gold wagon but can only come after klal yisroel wakes up to return to our loving father Hashem and king of kings ruler of the entire world.
When we show Hashem serious Teshuva and Achdus together like we did in the story of Purim with all kinds of Jews from frum to frei to chassidish and reform etc…… with love as one nation and no Sinas Chinam against any of our brothers in klal yisroel no matter who they are. Then we will show Hashem we are worthy for the coming of Mashiach already bkarov.
May we all wake up immediately to serious Teshuva and Achdus together so Mashiach can come already b’karov.
The question is above our grade level. If you can find Eliyahu’s number, you might want to text him to ask?
whitecar: My response answered your question precisely.
No one can predict when Moshiach will come . We say every day Mechake loy bevias hamoshiach…we believe he can come any day…this is the thirteen Ani Mamins which every jew has to believe…..it makes no sense to debate this issue because NO one knows the date . Of course every jew has to do everything he can to speed up his coming….
@Akuperma, Eliyahu changed his number due to overuse
When people ask this question in such a skeptical way you have to wonder whether they believe in Moshiach at all.
whitecar: Yes, I absolutely do believe Moshiach will be here within days. And, yes, I have a suitcase ready to roll with my basic necessities.
Even though certain days he cannot come, we believe every day that he will come, not necessarily that day.
common,
Joseph is expecting a call from Eliyahu telling him to reveal himself as mashiach since he’s already done such a remarkable job as the husband of multiple women, magid shiur, posek, semiconductor engineer, nuclear physicist and web troll.
“Joseph is expecting a call from Eliyahu telling him to reveal himself as mashiach…
One of the lamud vov tzadikim maybe…..Moishiach, highly unlikely….
I would like to be on the madreiga where I can honestly say that I believe with full belief Moshiach will be here any day even though he’s delayed.
So in short, yes. But I’m not sure if I’ve really internalized it yet.
I was curious if any part of our liturgy includes a prayer for unity among all Jews? I recently heard a prayer for unity among all Xians read at a friends wedding, and was like wow we really outta pray for that, but I can’t recall anything like that in our tefillahs? Sinas chinam seems to come easily to us as a people. There are too many subgroups and sub-subgroups of Jews and division always causes tension.
To answer the original poster’s question, keep studying my friend.
“Avot d’Rabbi Natan: “If you have a sapling in your hand and people tell you that the Moshiach has come, plant the sapling and then go and greet him.””ויחד לבבינו לאהבה וליראה את שמיך
Our hearts spould be united to love and fear Your name
“I recently heard a prayer for unity among all Xians read at a friends wedding, and was like wow we really outta pray for that, but I can’t recall anything like that in our tefillahs?“
You went to a goyish wedding and praise it?
@SACT5, being that you’re not frum, let me enlighten you to the fact that Yiddishkeit was never about singing kumbaya around the campfire.
“Yiddishkeit was never about singing kumbaya around the campfire”
Nor was it ever about using every opportunity to slam yidden whose hashkafah doesn’t meet your criteria of frumkeit or maintaining a level of sinas chinam that assures moishiach will not arrive within 12 months..
Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread.
@AviraDeArah, Thank you!!! You always have all the answers to my dumb questions much appreciated!!!
@Gadolhadorah, Thanks for the support! 💗I know “Yiddishkeit was never about singing kumbaya around the campfire.” We can’t even drag everyone to the same campfire forget singing the same song!
Between our religious, political, and cultural divisions add on top of that I’ve seen so much ugly synagogue politics over the years. My thought was if we should be pushing to end sinas chinam to hasten the geulah, why do we only seem to abstractly pray for moschiach or the rebuilding of the beit hamikdash (a lot) but not pray to help overcome our petty differences (other then in the yamim noraim al chet which is phrased in the negative, “And for the sin which we have committed before You by sinas chinam”)? Just made sense to me. And now I will know where to focus on that in my tefillah.To the CR trolls and those who think like them, may you never find yourself in a situation where you are neither frum nor frei, where you have no community and the only Orthodox Jews you encounter in your daily life are strangers on the internet, where you’ve endured so much bullying for your Jewishness that your intial reaction to being bullied for your lack of Jewishness is to smirk at the irony, where the apikorusim have always been inside your home trying to take you down with them, where the Jews around you are so OTD the only people who taught you correct Torah values were goyim, and no there is no way out.
@whitecar Yes I do, and it should be in peace, with President Biden and Congress (and every other country) transferring power to Moshiach, and not in the other manner.
If you can learn with a chavrusa, what is the question? If you are studying limud chol because you feel you would otherwise make a worse use of your time, then you should, most careers will still exist with Moshiach, and if yours will not, you will retrain with the expertise you gained already. That’s what most medical doctors will do.
@SACT5 As for “goyim teaching correct Torah values” please reread that and I am confident you’ll agree it makes no sense. Of course we learn from everybody, including non jews and non religious jews, we study their books be them law, medicine, engineering etc. and if they have good middot we admire and learn, but I believe we don’t ordinarily attend weddings that involve other religions’ prayers and rituals. Sorry you call me a troll, you are definitely not the only one finding yourself in challenging situations (as of today, Moshiach is not revealed yet). In fact in my early 20s I was invited to a church wedding by a very close friend , I “went” and stayed out of the door, in the street. After some time a priest came to inquire why I was outside, I answered I am not a xian and don’t go to church, and guess what? he went inside and returned with two chairs for me and another non xian girl who saw me and did the same, the priest also added it would take approximately X more time, in case we don’t want to wait and prefer to return later. Whether the bride was delighted or not with my “attendance” I never asked, but we are still friends. I could tell you more stories, I noticed many times in my life, if we do things correctly, they respect us. With regards to the “apikorsim” or more likely misguided and confused people, have some compassion on them and be grateful we are not in their place. help them take one step towards Torah if we can and stay away if you cannot, and in any case, it is my opinion you should get rid of beliefs such as “there is no way out” because in every situation there is always a proper, correct, honorable way out.So if Moshiach will come in 12 months – who has the potential to be Moshiach?
@daniela, You are correct, I should have said “closest to” correct Torah values. The things that were taught to me as Torah values are a perversion of the faith.
I do not think you are a troll. It’s not that I shouldn’t have gone, there’s certainly an arguement for that, it’s the way it was expressed. I was never taught Jews shouldn’t physically enter a church so this is the first time I’m hearing this rule; I wasn’t intentionally breaking it. For a time I was sent to school in a church.
The tough situation is not the choice of attending one friends wedding or not. That’s one event. It is the constant daily choices with no option for the correct choice and the atmosphere I’m surrounded by.
You wrote, “Of course we learn from everybody, including non jews and non religious jews.”
But in my case nonJews & non-religious Jews were all I had to learn from as I was intentionally kept away from frum Jews so that they would not teach me anything.The apikorsim are sadly much much more learned than I, but since Torah conflicts with their modern liberal values (feminism, etc.) and they lack faith in hashem and or actively oppose core religious principles, and they insist on spreading their blasphemy to other Jews, I don’t think I can guide them anywhere. Ive nudged, but they are too far gone.
Thankfully I’ve found my way out but unfortunately it will destroy a lot of lives in the process. Perhaps it’s their own fault for straying so far from the path, but it doesn’t feel good and there are certainly innocent parties involved.
Yid1818: HaRav Moshe Shternbuch shlita.
Midrash Tanchuma, Parshat Nitzabim, end of chapter 1:
“The Jews will not be redeemed until they unite as one…
when they unite, they receive the Divine Presence.”@Sam Klein
What gold wagon? עני רוכב על חמור
@sact5
that is truly a sad situation.in all seriousness, can we connect you with some IRL orthodox jews?
Just clarifying, my “in all seriousness” preface wasn’t to imply that the 1st sentence wasn’t serious.
Just that I was afraid the question would sound sarcastic.Sadly, Moshiach didn’t come last week as we hoped and expected
But he WILL be here this week!
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