July 17, 2011 6:25 am at 6:25 am #598016
I thought I would stimulate the coffee room and throw this conversation into the childrens rooms of our Happy People.
I must say that I am 39 and I have learned over the years that those things we had a children are really not too bad to keep in our lives.
Contrast this with Christianity which says somewhere in their ‘book’ that you should get rid of all things childlike and go on in your “order”.
I disagree 100% completely.
I will share with you guys that I keep a little bit of silly putty on my bedside nightstand. I like to play with it once in a while and it is very stimulating. It is a nice thing to do if you are introspective and want to have something to occupy your hands while you may be in your room especially if there are no others to spend your minutes with.
I also have found that kaleidoscopes are really nice to pick up once in a while.
Of course, you never get too old to have a dreidle. I have a few dreidles on my desk that I like to spin and play with while I am waiting for something in my office. I have a few nice ones that are metal and I found on ebay for a few dollars. One is even silver.
A rabbi from my youth used to collect yo-yo’s and was a master of the yo-yo art.
That said, there is definately a role for the things of our youth in our adult life. True we wont be sitting in the sandbox anymore, but that said, be good and keep your mind and hands active.July 17, 2011 11:42 am at 11:42 am #789329deiyezoogerMember
The diference of a man and a boy, is the price of the toy!!July 17, 2011 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm #789330The last RebelMember
There’s this new toy it’s like the little magnetic balls that can be made into like chains and cubes and once you pick it up you can’t out it downJuly 17, 2011 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm #789331ZachKessinMember
I definitely have toys, the biggest of which is a telescope! Its bigger than my kids. Actually my 4 year old loves looking at the moon with it and will often “make” me take it out to look. He has tried to take it out himself but its a lot bigger than he is.
Yes he is very much a geek-in-training!July 17, 2011 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #789332koillel101Member
Basket- this is not the first time you brought in something about the christians to prove your point.
(also on the music thread)
I think you should stop bringing it up here as it makes no difference. You could just say that u think its important to keep the child in you happy or something like that.July 17, 2011 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #789333
Koillel, that is fine. I hope that the knowledge of truth is at your fingertips now. Lets not be like the nations huh?
True you can have “bigger toys” as you get to be a bigger child. But that said, I say that a True Torah scholar might have a few other toys too. 🙂July 17, 2011 9:01 pm at 9:01 pm #789334YW Moderator-42Moderator
Lego!July 17, 2011 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #789335
I will tell you that I bought a few bobble heads which are fun to decorate a place with if you are in a juvenile mode of thought. (well I am not living in the Taj Mahal of the uber sophisticated high priced wine drinking fame). But that said, I like to have a few decorations from the childlike experiences people may have. It keeps you young in mind, being, spirit and soul.July 17, 2011 9:28 pm at 9:28 pm #789336ShrekMember
cars. the big kind that actually take you places.July 17, 2011 11:27 pm at 11:27 pm #789337
Cars really are not toys though. They are big things that make you smile a bit. But they are not a token of happiness. If your car is what gives you happiness, you are materialistic. But that said, one should find the things that bring about real happiness in life.July 17, 2011 11:35 pm at 11:35 pm #789338Another nameParticipant
I also like silly putty and yoyos (and crayons and play dough). Also those puzzle balls are really addicting. There’s nothing wrong with being a kid at heart 🙂July 18, 2011 12:07 am at 12:07 am #789339oomisParticipant
These days I play with my aineklach. Better than a yoyo.July 18, 2011 1:00 am at 1:00 am #789340bezalelParticipant
If your car is what gives you happiness, you are materialistic.
So if someting useful gives you happiness you are materialistic?July 18, 2011 1:13 am at 1:13 am #789341
Automobiles are really a utility service for your to be able to transport yourself, others and your goods. That is a good thing. But to invest your happiness in the material world is like making a deposit in the trash can of life. It may make you a proud person to drive say a Lexus or an Infinity or the like and truly maybe you deserve such distinction, but that said, it is not your life to be a car owner that has to swoon over your ride as if it is your Mount Everest of happiness. That said, I am a happy owner of a nice (getting old) automobile, but it is not my pride and joy.July 18, 2011 2:17 am at 2:17 am #789342deiyezoogerMember
???? ????? ?????? – According to Dovid HaMelech the Torah is the TOY to bring you real happiness.July 18, 2011 2:31 am at 2:31 am #789343Another nameParticipant
deiyezooger, The term toy in relation to Torah is a little demeaning, rather it means that you should get the same enjoyment and nachas from the torah, that a child gets from a toy. But of course your answer is still the best!July 18, 2011 3:38 am at 3:38 am #789344TheGoqParticipant
I have many toys at my desk at work, some stress balls, some wind ups, it relaxes me its my own personal space .July 18, 2011 4:44 am at 4:44 am #789345always runs with scissors fastParticipant
OP you have brought up an emotional topic for me. Toys. Or, more precisely One Toy, I shall never forget. When I was 8 years old in 1983 I once bought from a yard sale a gorgeous hand made knitted doll that had been made probablly for a baby gift, and never used. I paid .25 cents for it and was so proud and pleased with her. I still can recall vividly how she smelled of a fabric softener of some sort. She had that fresh clean scent of a baby. I had a name for her. I kept her all these years until recently. …let me explain…
As I grew up I generally brought her out less and less, but still kept her near – like in the closet. And she somehow retained that scent. Once in a while, even as a married woman I would bring her out and take a good whiff, of her, pushing my nose deep into her belly, trying to recapture that comforting smell she one had, or still had, or maybe it was just my imagination. Sometimes when I was emotional, or feeling sad, misunderstood or overwhelmed or insecure, I would sleep with her under my arm.
However, it really bothered my husband, I could tell. He was like ” Grow up?” So I tried not to do it. I told myself it was immature afterall.
But over time, I had come to realize that whatever associations I have with her and my past, and my childhood were sad recollections, sad hopes and dreams never materialized, and so i wanted to heal, and throw it all away. To get on with my life. So one day I decided to throw her out. I put her in the garbage erev pesach this past yomtov. I dont think i should regret it, but when i saw her little sweater remained behind in the toy cupboard with my kids doll clothes, I got emotional recently. I wasn’t trying to punish her by throwing her away. I just really wanted to get past those sad years of my childhood. And not feel like a helpless little girl anymore.
And funny enough….even until now, whenver I lay sad in my bed at night, feeling misunderstood, and insecure I remember her with a terrible pain and regret for having thrown her out. And I wish I could smell her and feel her under my arm.
Otherwise I really don’t think of her. However, I haven’t mentioned her name here in this small story of mine, because it will upset me. And I might get all regretful again.
But I liked how you mentioned you have silly putty by your bedside. I might get myself some for when I have stress.July 18, 2011 4:29 pm at 4:29 pm #789346
I would love to play in a sandbox! I love the sand and outdoors! I play on the trampoline all the time.July 18, 2011 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #789347
Are guitars and drums considered toys? Cuz if they are, I love playing with toys.July 18, 2011 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #789348
How about an iphone? a toy… big time!July 18, 2011 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #789349
middle- they are toys but there’s nothing like a sand box you gotta admit it!July 18, 2011 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #789350
I admit it- A sandbox is the ultimate toy 🙂July 21, 2011 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #789351always runs with scissors fastParticipant
Nothing beats digging in sand on a beach! Not even a sandboxJuly 21, 2011 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #789352
A beach with separate swimming? 😉July 21, 2011 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #789353Derech HaMelechMember
Just a public service announcement.
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Translation please…July 21, 2011 9:05 pm at 9:05 pm #789355bptParticipant
In essence, Derech listed 2 mamre chazal stating that childlike behavior is bad for you.
But on the flip side, there is a mahmer chazal that says from my students, I learnt more than from anyone else.
And one of the Rebbes said, multiple things in avoidas hashem can be learnt from observing an infant.
So take your pick.
As far as toys, I’m still hooked on bike riding! (but deeizooger is right, my bikes cost a whole lot more now than they did when I was a kid.)July 21, 2011 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm #789356
Childlike behavior is bad. Whining, stomping, swearing, clamoring, being wicked, foolish, immature and annoying all of that is worthless and should be left behind in your childhood. But that does not mean you can not have a rubiks cube.July 22, 2011 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm #789357Derech HaMelechMember
Yes, but the Gemara and Rashi there explain that this is because they sharpen the teacher by asking many questions. Not by teaching him how to turn the Transformers robot into a truck.July 22, 2011 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm #789358
bpt- yes i forgot about that one. I love riding my bike too but unfortunately dont get to do it that often…. have to get far out of monsey before i can get anywhere near a bike!!!!!!!July 22, 2011 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm #789359
Hmm, adorable, so you’re from monsey..Speaking of bike riding, I would love to get a motorcycle…but then I would probably never get married…not to a Jewish girl, anyway.July 22, 2011 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #789360
adorable- I feel ya..
MiddlePath- you would need a girl that would join you on the motorcycle….what kind would you like to get?July 22, 2011 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #789361
there are a couple of Jewish (and even chassidish guys) in monsey that drive motorcycles…..
yes im from monsey why?July 22, 2011 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #789362
I like the Kawasaki Ninja..it’s relatively cheap but looks amazing. And, yes, of course I would only ride it if I had a girl hanging on in the rear seat, hair blowing in the wind… Otherwise, what’s the point?
adorable, I dunno, it’s just that I have a certain image of people from Monsey and you don’t really fit it..Your’e very down to earth and open-minded. But I really shouldn’t be assuming things about people just because they live in certain locations.July 22, 2011 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #789363
WOW u definitely would benefit from getting out of your little hole and coming to monseyJuly 22, 2011 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #789364
Well I have been there a few times..And it is a nice place to visit. I really don’t see myself ever LIVING in New York, though.July 22, 2011 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #789365
Checked it out.. looks nice..
hey my chossen is from monsey and he is very open minded
maybe ill suggest we get a motorcycle that would be fun…whooooJuly 22, 2011 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #789366
neither do I but I have to be open to realize that I prob will end up here at some point in my life. its just the most typical normal place to start out. (wanna go to E”Y but well see….)July 22, 2011 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #789367smielyMember
im definatly addicted to dsJuly 25, 2011 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #789368bptParticipant
“Not by teaching him how to turn the Transformers robot into a truck.”
Ha, that’s old news. Today’s kids can show you how to get the Transformer to double as a wireless router for your Ipod that was thought not to have internet access.July 25, 2011 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #789369
I also bought a large collection of marbles some time ago. Its in a large bag in my closet now. I think it will be fun and if my nephews come over, we can have something to enjoy.
I have been collecting some bobble heads also. Just started and they are a nice way to add a little comedy and humor to your life.
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