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  • #598385
    deiyezooger
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    For whom did you vote in 2008? Knowing what you know today would you still vote that way?

    I voted for John M’cain, I didn’t realy like him but didn’t hate him either. (politicly speaking that is, I dont personaly hate Obama aldough I hate his presidency).

    As to Obama I tought he is too liberal so I didn’t vote for him but I beleived him to be a leader, but it turned out to be a nightmare.

    Whats about you?

    #793672
    kylbdnr
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    I wasn’t old enough to vote then…but if I was old enough I would vote M’Cain

    #793673
    TheGoq
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    I voted for Mccain/Palin and i do not regret it.

    #793674

    it was the first election i voted in and unfortunately my chosen candidate lost 🙁

    #793675
    Hacham
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    With that kind of mazal, I would suggest in the future you always vote for the candidate you don’t want to win.

    #793676
    Another name
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    I voted for McCain just like most of you, but I think we all were well aware that he stood little chance against Obama. What was interesting to note was how quickly the national debt rose, subsequent to Obama’s appearence in the oval office.

    #793677
    A23
    Participant

    I voted for Obama and I have no regrets. The stock market is up 3000 since that day. Would it be higher under McCain? I have no idea, but the idea that Obama is a “nightmare,” as many frum people claim or believe, is laughable. Please tell me concrete things he does that make his presidency so terrible. Please tell me how McCain would have been different, and please tell me how Obama is worse than Bush.

    #793678
    deiyezooger
    Member

    “and please tell me how Obama is worse than Bush. “

    The unemployment rate for starters.

    #793679
    ☕️coffee addict
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    A23,

    and then let’s go to the Israeli-Palestinean conflict

    #793680

    A23- you’re fooling yourself if you think that the country is well off now under Obama just because the stock market rose. In general, the situation our country is in is quite a disaster. 🙁

    #793681

    I do not regret voting for McCain/Palin. I do not regret voting against the egocentric, Marxist, anti-American, economy-killing, Muslim sympathizing (if not just plain Muslim) puppet of a foreign government currently in office. And if he calls the American populace “folks” one more time in one more speech, I’ll really have reason to dislike him.

    #793682
    aries2756
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    I voted for McCain and am very sorry he lost. Firstly the mideast issue is a no brainer. The entire mideast is in turmoil and that is because Obama gave the Arabs carte blanche and turned his back on Israel. As far as the presidency and the country is concerned, I voted for McCain because of his experience and did not trust Obama because of his lack of experience which he has proven hand over fist. He would rather go on vacation or play golf as if he is in the White house just to play house than take his responsibilities seriously. The only thing he takes seriously is raising funds for his campaign and he really believes he can charm the pants off of anyone. He really believes he can fool the public twice.

    As far as Obama versus Bush is concerned every single thing that Obama denounced Bush for in his campaign and every single thing he promised to change was a lie. Once in office he negated every single thing he said and backed Bush’s decisions up. He lied, lied, lied. So what does that mean? He wound up supporting all of Bush’s policies. He was a fake and a phony from day one and the only reason he won the election was because he read his speeches that others wrote for him with panache and charisma.

    #793683
    deiyezooger
    Member

    Well said aries, but there is another point, Bush was not runing in ’08!!

    #793684
    commonsense
    Participant

    I voted for MCcain and i only regret that he did not win. You want to know concrete things that make Obama a disaster, try the national debt, try the stimulus, try unemployment. there was a recent study that showed that every job created by stimulus money cost about $300,000. He could have given each of those people $100,000 maybe they would have started businesses and hired other people creating new jobs and in the process saved us tax payers 2/3 of the money. Now Obama has noticed that the country is deep in the hole and wants us tax payers to pay more taxes to replace what he threw away. 47% of people in the US do not pay taxes! Obama makes it so easy to live off the gov’t and there is absolutely no incentive to go to work. Every way he wants to raise money is on the backs of the 53% of the people who actually pay taxes. The reason many people still like Obama is because he keeps giving them more money. This country came very close to going over the edge and has a long way to go for financial health and with Obama at the helm I’m afraid for the patient.

    #793685
    walton157
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    No. I did not vote for Obama. I knew from the start that he is a false “prophet” and that he would pander to the Muslim world. He’s a tyrant and an idiot.

    #793686
    A23
    Participant

    As far as the Middle East:

    First, Obama is absolutely not responsible for what happened in Egypt, it was the people who rose up to get rid of Mubarak. Whether or not his fall will hurt Israel is unknown at this time.

    Libya, Bahrain, Syria and all the other countries where the President may have a little more to do with the situation do not affect Eretz Yisrael. In fact, if they’re busy fighting amongst themselves, they won’t be preoccupied with Israel.

    Second, it was George W. Bush who promulgated the ‘Road Map’ which used the 1967 borders. Obama has never said or done one thing that weakens Israel more than Bush did. Anyone who thought that Bush was good for Israel must agree that Obama is similarly good. Now, obviously, the question is whether either of them are ‘good’ or ‘bad’ for Israel. I don’t know, and I think that it would take a true expert on Middle Eastern history and policy to judge something like that.

    As to the economy:

    There is no question that we are in dire straits. This all stems from the collapse of Bear Sterns and Lehmann Brothers in 2007. The question is whether McCain would have done something that may have made the situation better than it currently is. Again, I don’t really know the answer to this, and unless we have a navi in the CR, I am certain that nobody else knows the answer.

    Maybe we’d be in a full-fledged depression with McCain, maybe the unemployment rate would be 4%… Nobody really knows. But in response to the original post’s question, I have no regrets with my own choice.

    #793687
    ☕️coffee addict
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    A23,

    let’s dissect your comment

    First, Obama is absolutely not responsible for what happened in Egypt, it was the people who rose up to get rid of Mubarak. Whether or not his fall will hurt Israel is unknown at this time.

    you see how differently Obama has acted in response to Egypt then let’s say Iran’s uprising, at the time nothing was done yet with Egypt and Libya the guy wanted to take center stage Bush for sure wouldn’t be like that

    Libya, Bahrain, Syria and all the other countries where the President may have a little more to do with the situation do not affect Eretz Yisrael. In fact, if they’re busy fighting amongst themselves, they won’t be preoccupied with Israel.

    and when all is said and done when these countries become all the more radical they will all turn on Israel, and how can you say the situation in Syria will not affect Israel.

    Second, it was George W. Bush who promulgated the ‘Road Map’ which used the 1967 borders. Obama has never said or done one thing that weakens Israel more than Bush did. Anyone who thought that Bush was good for Israel must agree that Obama is similarly good.

    I’ve answered Charliehall’s similar comment, and I can’t find the link anymore (my guess is that it was deleted idk why)

    anyway the difference is that Obama set it up as a precondition for starting talks, yet Bush did not which totally changes the playing field entirely

    google road map speech and compare to Obama’s Middle east speech

    #793688
    aries2756
    Participant

    deiyezooger, and where exactly did I say he was? Obama was campaigning against Bush’s policies to make himself look good. He was talking about “change”. How he was going to “change” all the mistakes that Bush made. So where are those changes? Do you know? After he was in office he reaffirmed and retracted all those statements that he made.

    #793689
    aries2756
    Participant

    A23, Obama is so good to and for Israel that he never even went there all these years that he has been in office. Which US president behaved that way. And yes he is responsible for the unrest in the region. He pandered to the Arabs and did NOT support a strong and stable Israel as the center of the Middle East. He allowed a free for all.

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