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October 10, 2013 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #610847servebsimchaMember
I heard that HaRav Chaim Kanievsky Shlit”a says that even if a Mezuzah is perfectly kosher, if the left “tag” is taller than the right tag on a lamed, then it can cause a person Tzaros – sickness etc… and I heard that since it’s halchically OK, not all sofrim are so makpid with it.
Does anyone know where I can get Mezuzos that are guaranteed to have this done the correct way?
October 10, 2013 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #978572YusselParticipantPerhaps you might want to look up what the Rambam has to say about using the Mezuzah as a “shemirah”.
October 10, 2013 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #978573lev11MemberCheck out mezuzot that Rav Daniel Cohen has, a very rare high quility ktav by a person with Yirat Shamayim. 718-310-1047
October 10, 2013 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #978574HaLeiViParticipantYussel, are women Mechuyav in Mezuza?
October 10, 2013 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #978575mustchangetheworldParticipantzichronolam.com – they also have a hechsher on their mezuzos
October 10, 2013 7:48 pm at 7:48 pm #978576YusselParticipantHalevi:
What does that have to do with my comment?
October 10, 2013 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #978577apushatayidParticipantThis entire thread is based on hearsay. Why dont you first verify that R’ Chaim actually said what they claim he said.
October 10, 2013 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #978578mustchangetheworldParticipantmy friend also heard it from R’ Chaim firsthand, but I don’t think its R’ Chaims chiddush, I think it is brought down earlier
October 10, 2013 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm #978579Sam2ParticipantI’m not going to comment on the veracity of these statements, but why on Earth would being M’kayeim a Mitzvah D’oraisa cause Tzaros?
October 11, 2013 2:58 am at 2:58 am #978580rebdonielMemberSam2, you make too much sense. Being too logical is a no-no. People will accuse you of being a kofer.
October 11, 2013 10:00 am at 10:00 am #978581HaLeiViParticipantSam2, you make too much sense. Being too logical is a no-no. People will accuse you of being a kofer.
Is this a famous mantra? I see it being repeated here at regular intervals.
October 11, 2013 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #978582apushatayidParticipantCall me an am haaretz, but I always thought that only the letters “shatnez gtz” had tagin.
October 11, 2013 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #978583ItcheSrulikMember1- This is from sefer shmirat haguf v’hanefesh, a contemporary collection of segulos regardless of source.
2- The version recorded there does not say that it causes tzaros, it says that having the taggim is a segula for shalom bayis.
3- If this segula is true, what did Jews do for all the centuries before we started making lameds that way?
apushatayid: ????”? ?”? get the collection of three taggim with which most people are familiar because those are mentioned in the gemara. Ketav beis yosef has a number of other single taggim, or taggim without heads (sometimes called kotzim, regular taggim are supposed to look like zayin’s) on various letters. The Lamed has two kotzim on the tip and the one on the right is supposed to be larger. Many sofrim don’t bother with the right hand kotz in tefillin and mezuzos at all because of the risk of making a psul.
October 11, 2013 3:10 pm at 3:10 pm #978584apushatayidParticipantBeing nice to your spouse is also a segula for shalom bayis.
Thanks for the info on tagim.
October 11, 2013 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #978585HaLeiViParticipantOh really? Did you try it?
October 11, 2013 3:29 pm at 3:29 pm #978586ItcheSrulikMemberYou’re wrong about being nice to your spouse. It’s not a segula if it makes sense on its own. (you can probably tell that I’m one of the people who tends to cry nichush when hearing such things)
October 11, 2013 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #978587apushatayidParticipantThe rambam disagrees with you.
October 11, 2013 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #978588ItcheSrulikMemberNo, the Rambam disagreed with what we call segulos.
October 11, 2013 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #978589HaLeiViParticipantYussel, the Gemara in Kedushin wondered if women are Mechuyav in Mezuza. Then, the Gemara says that it can’t be that they aren’t Mechuyav, since they also need a Shmira. This is besides the Gemara about Rebbi and Antoninus, and Unklos and the soldiers.
The Rambam had an issue with those who used to put strange characters into the Mezuza. This bothered the Rambam, and he said they are turning the Mezuza into some king of charm, which it isn’t. However, the practice seems to have been condoned by Rashi and the Yereim.
October 11, 2013 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #978590YusselParticipantHalevi:
As others have pointed out, to claim that a person can have tzaros caused by his fulfilling a Mitzvah is hard to understand.
October 12, 2013 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #978591mustchangetheworldParticipantAlthough I agree that ‘it seems wierd’, my friend did hear it from R’ Chaim himself [he said its based on the Vilna Gaon].
I think it does not “cause tzarros” but rather can be “meoroer the midas hadin” and [sadly] nobodys perfect.
zichronolam.com mentions the concept, as do other websites that deal with sta”m, and they are also makpid on it – in any case i don’t think it was “made up”.
If I was getting new mezuzos, I would for sure get ones that have this.
October 13, 2013 12:50 am at 12:50 am #978592metrodriverMemberServebesimcha: My first impulse was to ask if you made an appointed to a doctor for OCD diagnosis and treatment. But on second thought it occurred to me that you are being facetious. It is impossible in the range of normative (That is an Israeli definition that may very well be used here in the US.) thought and behavior to have the concerns you have. We have Halacha. That is the only factor that determines whether we use or don’t use something. That is our only standard and guide in life. Besides, I’m certain you misquoted R’ Chaim Kanievsky.
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