December 24, 2017 12:21 am at 12:21 am #1434211
If he always leaves CDs out of their boxes, and always leaves the lid off every container?December 24, 2017 1:38 am at 1:38 am #1434269
If he’s a child, then he’s a child.
If he’s an adult, then he’s an adult.
What was the question?
There are no bad people, only people who make bad choices, such as eating relish-flavored ice cream on an empty stomach, followed by three additional full courses, topped with blooming onions and tangerines.December 24, 2017 1:38 am at 1:38 am #1434271
He should be put in cherem.December 24, 2017 11:56 am at 11:56 am #1434336
He’s just suffering the side effects of having a Y chromosome. Other side effects include not closing closet doors and leaving the water bottle out of the fridge.December 24, 2017 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm #1434501
It sure beats suffering X chromosome side effects!!December 24, 2017 1:48 pm at 1:48 pm #1434523
Joseph, all of the population suffers from X chromosome side effects.December 24, 2017 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #1434549
WTP, he doesn’t have any more Y chromosomes than any other man, and #notallmen.December 24, 2017 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #1434593
RebYidd, how do you know that such behavior (or similar) isn’t practiced by all or even most men?
Why don’t we conduct a survey right here on YW CR:
If you have a Y chromosome, how often do you leave containers uncapped or not return CDs to their jackets?
4. plead the 5th
For those without a Y chromosome, if you are married to someone with a Y chromosome, how often does he leave containers uncapped or not return CDs to their jackets?
4. don’t want to answer to preserve your shalom bayisDecember 24, 2017 11:06 pm at 11:06 pm #1435668
If all or most men behaved like this, no CD would survive.December 25, 2017 12:44 am at 12:44 am #1435679
In response to your survey, the answer is, much less often than my wife.
Also, I never thought I would agree to wholeheartedly with Joseph, but I think he is right. One of the side affects of having a Y chromosome is apparently to prevent a carrier from suffering the side affects of having an X chromosome.
The other side of the population, on the other hand, have a double dose…December 25, 2017 12:45 am at 12:45 am #1435680
Still does not prove anything- CDs survive because the women in their lives replace them.December 25, 2017 7:08 am at 7:08 am #1435688
And how exactly do they manage that?December 25, 2017 7:10 am at 7:10 am #1435694
Females may have 2 x chromosomes, but 1 is inactivated, so they do not actually express a double dose. Whether the Y chromosome side effects cancel out the X chromosome side effects, well that will depend on how severe he “suffers” from the Y effect.December 25, 2017 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #1436217
Creating and protecting things is far more difficult than destroying them.December 26, 2017 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm #1436779
RebYidd, I meant that when the female sees the CD lying around, she puts it back in the jacket, when she sees the container uncovered, she covers it. So it all works out in the end. The guys isn’t being bad, just enabling the woman to do what she is best at- creating and protecting.December 26, 2017 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #1437021
Putting the lid back on doesn’t restore the contents. Putting the CD back doesn’t unscratch it.December 26, 2017 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm #1437180
LU: If you G-d forbid speak lashon hara about yourself, then doesn’t that put others at risk of speaking lashon hara about you too…. and thus assur?December 26, 2017 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #1437183GadolhadorahParticipant
Who still uses CDs? Most music today is downloaded to our phones or PDAs via electronic music files or stored in the cloud in our Amazon or Apple Music accounts , or equivalent. Much more convenient and considerably less prone to damage.December 27, 2017 12:13 am at 12:13 am #1437188
GHD: That’s because you only listen to secular music. Most of us here listen to Jewish music, which is still sold mostly on CDs.December 27, 2017 12:14 am at 12:14 am #1437190
Gadolhadorah, this is a frum forum, how could you mention something treif like the Internet?December 27, 2017 12:47 am at 12:47 am #1437210
Ooops sorry everyone… I thought I posted to LU in the lashon hara thread… please disregard my last post… thank you ☺December 27, 2017 12:47 am at 12:47 am #1437211
Some men leave caps off their toothpastes, but of that cap off is an issue, then hopefully a husband and wife can afford to have their own personal toothpaste tubesDecember 27, 2017 12:48 am at 12:48 am #1437217🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
joseph – if youre gonna be nasty, at least be informed. you are totally wrong on this oneDecember 27, 2017 12:48 am at 12:48 am #1437213
A CD left out of its container can technically be in a boom box.December 27, 2017 12:58 am at 12:58 am #1437223
Cheers, Syag.December 27, 2017 6:17 am at 6:17 am #1437225🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant
I didn’t mean wrong about posters listening to English music, I meant about her post not being shiach to kosher music. We haven’t gotten a CD in ages.December 27, 2017 8:28 am at 8:28 am #1437244
I’ve had this argument numerous times with the wife. It’s not that men are bad, it’s that men value efficiency more then women. And frankly we are taught from an early age that we are supposed to be efficient (that’s the root behind bitul Torah, lack of using time wisely)
So if my dining room table is covered with seforim or other things I anticipate needing, it’s not that I’m “messy” , I’m simply efficient. The wife values the look of cleanliness more then being efficient.
This is true by a lot of things. A great myth is that women are better communicators then men. Not true. They may talk more but that’s not communication. The definition of communication is being able to relay thoughts, and men are way more efficient at that.December 27, 2017 8:43 am at 8:43 am #1437259
Mensch1, there is a difference between leaving seforim out and leaving the lid off of a container. Being a whirlwind of chaos and destruction is not okay.December 28, 2017 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm #1439104
Joseph says : ” Most of us here listen to Jewish music, which is still sold mostly on CDs.”
Oopah…!! Surely you mean lots of “secular” genre music with “psukim from Tanach” verses. ( I’m talking the last 15 years )
Plenty of “big” name Jewish stars who stole rock music songs whole, and glued Jewish words to them.
What constitutes Jewish is itself another matter of discussion. Jewish Sefardi music differs from Ashkenazi, at the very least in scales. In any case, most contemporary Jewish music is boring, all sound the same, imitations of one from another, uninspiring . Did I mention uninspiring?
Now I’m copywriting Chubby Checker’s ‘The Twist” into Siman Tov & Mazel Tov.
Get a lawyer if I hear you singing or playing it the next 2nd dance.
Anyway, “most” is guesswork.December 28, 2017 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm #1439111
… Or what I get a kick out of most, are the intros to chosson/kallah entrances. Rock, punk, mambos, etc… while everybody gets so busy waiting in line breathlessly. Jewish music my last week’s Matyas herring.
Years ago, dinner music was beautiful , yes, secular music and nobody complained.
These days is non-stop screaming ” Oy vey, bre ng shoyn Moshiach… Aha… Aha… Der shviger dantzt, the yenta zugt, der yiddel shpringt, oy, vay, oy vay. Or some “memre” someplace which doesn’t fit the music.
Shomer Chinum, Shomer, Sachar, aye, aye, aye….December 28, 2017 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm #1439140
I was enjoying this thread until you trotted out the tired old diatribe about “what they call Jewish music today.”
I, for one, have no patience for the highbrows who seem to think that only their taste in music matters.
It’s no coincidence that Ashkenazi music sounds so similar to Eastern European music, while Sefardic music sounds so similar to Arabic music. The fact that you don’t enjoy contemporary singers or find their songs inspiring doesn’t mean that it’s any less Jewish than Regesh, Carlebach, Rabbi’s Sons, or even Yossel Rosenblatt. You can include every Chassidishe nigun from the Baal Shem Tov’s Nigun straight through Modzitz and next year’s Simchas Beis Hashoeiva from Belz in this list. (Honorable mention goes to the Chassidim, who managed to produce the Emperor’s New Album to match his clothes, by saying that “the Rebbe was Mikadeish the Nigun.”)
None of that was inherently “Jewish music” either, and I’m sure that in each generation, the old fuddy duddys complained about “what they call Jewish music today.”
In response to Joseph, nearly all Jewish music for the past ten years, and a lot of the earlier stuff, is available for digital download, and on subscription music apps.
Now back to our regular feature program…
Nobody is perfect, but the Y chromosome seems to give its carrier a more relaxed (dare I say, realistic) attitude about the failings of those around him.December 29, 2017 12:01 am at 12:01 am #1439123
Zion, you’ve been so brainwashed by non-Jewish music that you’re a) unable to enjoy Jewish music and b) don’t even know Jewish music.December 29, 2017 12:01 am at 12:01 am #1439130
Deliberately changing the topic of a thread to one that there are a lot of threads for already is not as bad as leaving a CD or DVD out of its case, but it is still not the right thing to do.December 29, 2017 12:01 am at 12:01 am #1439147
Agree with you completely, that was precisely my point. My response was to Joseph who featured himself listening to “Jewish ” music while knocking Gadolhadorah .December 29, 2017 12:16 am at 12:16 am #1439153
During my sheva brochos ( first marriage) I learned that my parents had not properly trained me in all manners of proper behavior. Apparently there are very specific ways of closing cereal boxes and even what surfaces car keys can touch. Apparently the X chromosome somehow creates a need for control on all matters considered trivial by Y chromosome carriers.December 29, 2017 12:16 am at 12:16 am #1439172
I apologize, but had to respond to Joseph’s sucker punch about Jewish music.
Enjoy your thread.December 29, 2017 12:17 am at 12:17 am #1439173
Was just listening to a Rabbi reisman tape on the middah of netzach. Loosely translated as victory over something and putting it in the past, getting over it. He applied it to shalom bayis by saying that when spouses come and complain to him and say “ I’ve been telling him:her for ten years ….” he responds “so, nu , do you expect change in the next ten years? Just accept it and move on”December 29, 2017 1:02 am at 1:02 am #1439192
My apologies. I somehow missed your sarcasm.
Joseph, I feel for you. It must be difficult to be so righteously indignant about something that you can not define, or even properly identify.December 29, 2017 1:02 am at 1:02 am #1439191
That’s just silly, mentsch1. Some conditions are just not livable, and some crimes cannot be ignored.December 29, 2017 1:02 am at 1:02 am #1439189
I’m sorry to hear that you had to go through that. I have a close friend who endured something similar. His first marriage lasted less than three months.
However, in his case (and perhaps in yours as well) the culprit was not the XX chromosomal condition, but a bad case of OCD (she hid it from him the whole time, and went off medication to try to conceive), coupled with an obscene form of premeditated abuse of trust [this last may well have been genetic – it is rather similar to what Lavan did…].
Your mother’s rather healthy training of her child(ren) seems to be evidence that not all ailments suffered by XX carriers are related to that particular chromosome.
In any case, I am happy that you were able to move on from a toxic situation.December 29, 2017 1:52 am at 1:52 am #1439209
Oops, forgot to @ mentsch1.December 29, 2017 8:23 am at 8:23 am #1439228
It wasn’t ocd.
“Happy wife = Happy life”
This rule means that the Y chromosome often has to apologize for things that he knows he isn’t wrong about and has to live with things he knows he shouldn’t. Despite the X chromosome always believing they are right and rarely apologizing the Y chromosome somehow moves on.December 29, 2017 1:10 pm at 1:10 pm #1439359
Just to be clear, I wasn’t describing someone who is just messy. I would leave the CD case on the desk and the can of coffee on the counter. This person would remove the CD from the case and pack away the case with the other CD cases. They would remove the lid from the coffee and put it back in the cabinet without the lid.December 30, 2017 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #1439425
RebYidd- are these the only “crimes”? It sounds like it could be a memory problem, or being easily distracted- any other signs of forgetfulness?December 30, 2017 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #1439512
I don’t think it’s a memory problem. He never forgets to pack something away, and apparently never forgets to lose the lid of a container.
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