August 9, 2015 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #616176
why is Trump being hailed as the “star” of the debate (http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/332980/gop-scorecard-how-the-candidates-fared-in-the-first-debate.html). After watching the debate,
I can’t fathom why. Is it because he called the government stupid a few times? Or because his hair looked particularly weird that day? Because there’s nothing else he had over anyone. He didn’t speak more than anyone else, wasn’t more aggressive than Huckabee or Cruz, and certainly spoke less fact (fabricated or not) than anyone else–his arguments was boiling air and nothing else. (Save for the three seconds when he said he spoke to the Mexican border patrol and they told him drugs and criminals were coming over the border.)August 9, 2015 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #1095991JosephParticipant
Actually he did speak much more than anyone else.August 9, 2015 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm #1095992Sam2Participant
Honestly, he probably lost a lot of support. He’s holding the GOP hostage with his third-party thread, showed his entire lack of loyalty and, honestly, will not win a fight against Megyn Kelly (which he doubled down on with some disgusting personal comments on CNN yesterday).August 9, 2015 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #1095993Mashiach AgentMember
cause he spoke more then any other of the TEN debaters (it wasn’t a 1 on 1) & he also knows how to speak honestly from his heart & at the same time be a piece of entertainment.
about a month ago already, the newspaper transferred him from the politics section to the entertainment sectionAugust 9, 2015 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #1095994
He’s a big jerk the personal attacks on the female debate moderator was beyond the pale disgusting, he is not a republican, he is a megalomaniac and his popularity in the polls is probably attributed to democrats who want him to remain in the race to discredit all the gop candidates.August 9, 2015 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #1095995JosephParticipant
Yeah, he’s a jerk and megalomaniac; no doubt. And he has no chance of winning and most people wouldn’t want him near the White House. But its good he’s shaking up the race instead of letting the establishment simply roll over everyone and install their establishment candidate.August 9, 2015 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm #1095996
No Joseph its not good his candidacy is marring the entire Republican party he is a pig.August 9, 2015 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm #1095997golferParticipant
If Mr Trump is following this thread, I’d be happy to give him the number of my sheitel macher.August 9, 2015 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm #1095998akupermaParticipant
1, He certainly acted like the “star” – after all, he’s better known as a television celebrity as anything else. “Star” doesn’t mean “winner” – in fact he was the “bad guy” in his TV series.
2. If he turns out not to be as conservative as first believed, his third party threat is more credible in terms of winning, but less of a threat for the Republicans. The reason is that instead of being a “extremist” appealing to “true believers” (cf. Pat Buchanan and Ralph Nader in 2000), he would be a moderate running against the “extremists” of the “Tea Party” and the “Occupy Wall Street.”
3. While he is very anti-PC and racist, most of hie other views are not so radical, and he’s been a big advocate of corporate welfare in the past, and a frequent support of liberal Democrats.August 10, 2015 12:17 am at 12:17 am #1095999☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Lol golfer.August 10, 2015 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm #1096000apushatayidParticipant
i dont know about star, but he certainly grabbed the limelight all to himself. I was in the car for most of the debate and kept changing stations, every time I tuned in the debate, he was talking. i am guessing, since he got the most airtime, he was billed as the “star”.August 10, 2015 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #1096001Matan1Participant
Apparently he wanted Hillary at his wedding so badly, he gave her a donation!August 12, 2015 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #1096002
Donald Trump’s run for the Republican nomination is an infuriating farce. Not only has he made it his business to attack all of his opponents, he has not offered a single concrete plan for ANY of the major political issues! Who would vote for someone like that? Oh, only the majority of the American public who care little for issues and much more for rhetoric and bombast.August 12, 2015 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #1096003
technical, I beg to differ: he has offered a VERY concrete plan on the issue of illegal immigration. He wants to put up a wall. Can you get more concrete than that?August 12, 2015 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #1096004
Some more of Trump’s plans (taken from Wikipedia):
Economy: Trump supports pro-growth policies and reduced taxation on U.S. workers and business with reduced regulation to increase economic growth and create opportunity. Trump has proposed a 1-5-10-15 income tax plan in order to simplify the tax code, where incomes of up to $30,000 would pay 1%, incomes of $30,000 to $100,000 would pay 5%, incomes of $100,000 to $1 million would pay 10%, incomes of $1 million and up would pay 15%. Further, his plan would eliminate the inheritance tax, eliminate the corporate tax, lower the capital gains tax, and instead apply a 20% import tariff and a 15% tax on outsourcing to foreign countries. Trump favors stronger trade negotiations with nations such as China, with a more level playing field on trade, to restore American jobs applying tariffs when necessary. Trump favors a free market energy policy and opposes cap and trade also called ‘cap and tax’. Trump supports improving America’s infrastructure.
Education: Trump favors school choice and local control for primary and secondary schools. He opposes federally mandated Common Core standards for primary and secondary schools. He has called Common Core a disaster that must be ended.
There are also views there on healthcare and foreign policy, but they’re long, so I won’t post them here. You can look them up yourself.August 12, 2015 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #1096005
I meant specifically in the debate. He kept saying “I’ll offer some great plans, I’m not willing to disclose them yet.”
I’m wondering where Wikipedia’s information is coming from… will check it out for myself.August 12, 2015 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm #1096006
Mr. Trump’s biggest problem is his uncontrolled mouth. He is intelligent, he is passionate, he is a BUSINESSMAN (very crucial in our debt-ridden country today), and he is strong on the desire to protect our national security and borders. Her also is a good friend to Israel. That said, he is not diplomatic or tactful, and although I believe that there are so many times when being PC is Positively Catastrophic, there are nevertheless times when a President needs to finesse a situation. He is very heavy-handed.
I agreed with nearly everything he said, and Megyn Kelly, whom I watched on TV, really IMO was out of line in the questions she asked him. She took things out of context, and if you listen to the entire exchange that took place on The Apprentice, he really said nothing offensive regarding women, to the female contestant. It was all blown up out of proportion and misinterpreted by those who have an agenda and animus to Donald Trump. He did make an unfortunate comment at the debate, but he was pushed and provoked (though that is part of his problem, as he needs to learn to control his responses to a visceral attack).
I like Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee. Also Marco Rubio, but I don’t think it his time yet. I would love to see most of the candidates in the President’s cabinet. Maybe a Huckabee/Cruz ticket, with Carly Fiorina in there, somewhere as well. And Ben Carson should be Surgeon General. I liked him a lot.
I am the first to admit I am politically ignorant, but these are the impressions I got from the debate. So agree or disagree, this is how I see it. I cannot wait for the next debate.August 13, 2015 4:05 am at 4:05 am #1096007
Where did you find that Wikipedia page? I tried Googling it, but it’s not in Trump’s personal page.
Anyway, he seems to be self-contradictory based on the other things I’ve read about him.August 13, 2015 11:26 am at 11:26 am #1096008
Oomis remember the old line if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen? it is her job to ask tough questions there was nothing unfair about her questions if a candidate is disrespectful to a huge segment of the electorate that is a valid issue if he were an anti semite you would have no problem with that issue being raised imo.August 13, 2015 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm #1096009
technical20, search for “Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2016”
I don’t particularly care that much for any of the Republican candidates. I’d still vote for any of them over Hillary Clinton, though.
If I had to pick one, I’d probably say Rand Paul, now that he has changed his stance on cutting funding to Israel. He wants to have a much smaller government, a flat tax, and pass legislation requiring a balanced budget. I strongly agree with 2 of those 3 things, am not opposed to the 3rd at all.August 13, 2015 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #1096010Letakein GirlParticipant
I didn’t like the way Fox ran the debate. They focussed more on personally attacking Trump, a candidate that they created, by the way, than on showcasing the amazing presidential candidates that Republicabs have to offer.
There were many Democrats watching that debate- 42 million people watched it. Throat is more than any other presidential debate, ever! Trump should have been asked several questions on his policies on things like health care as immigration, he would have shown how illogical his stances are, and then the rest of the Republican candidates could have showcased their positions, creating support for the Republican Party. This was such an unbelievable opportunity to gain support for our party, and Fox News blew it.
Instead of allowing everyone else on stage to say their piece, they bashed Trump, and made a fool out of him. In doing that, they made Trump supporters feel victimized, and there is now a greater chance than ever that Trump will run third party.August 13, 2015 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #1096011
Oomis remember the old line if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen? it is her job to ask tough questions there was nothing unfair about her questions if a candidate is disrespectful to a huge segment of the electorate that is a valid issue if he were an anti semite you would have no problem with that issue being raised imo. “
Goq, I would agree with you had she actually asked him serious questions relating to politics. His views about Rosie O’Donnell were well-known a LONG time ago. She was disrespectful to him first, and drew first blood (whoops, am I not allowed to refer to blood, lest it be misinterpreted????) when she made fun of him. And while he should not be so thin-skinned, especially if he wants to be in politics, his unpleasant remarks about her did not reflect his views about ALL women. Had he been more tactful, he should have said, he regrets that he said such unflattering things, even as he was provoked.
As to the other things that Megyn Kelly asked him, ASK THE WOMEN who appeared on the Apprentice if they felt he disrespected them or was offensive in things he said to them. Two of the women came forward and said he did not deserve the negative feedback he was receing.
I am not looking to defend him, but I do believe he got a bad rap and Kelly did her best to ambush him with nonsense that had nothing materially to do with the election and his platform. And it was done to elicit a response that could be held against him. She baited him, from my perspective, plain and simple.Personally, I liked other candidates better, but let’s be fair.
BTW, I was singularly NOT impressed with Rand Paul. He is a dour man, interrupting and argumentative, and potentially dangerous obstacle to Israel. He’s the one candidate who stood out negatively for me. And that is even with not being a great fan of Jeb Bush.August 14, 2015 12:06 am at 12:06 am #1096012
LG, in what way were they harsher on Trump than the others? Most of them were challenged to defend their electibility and things they had previously opined.August 14, 2015 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm #1096013
Scared driver, the others were actually asked pertinent and relevant questions pertaining to their political beliefs. They were not asked about how they feel about women. Whether or not Trump is electable, remains to be seen. But judge him on his opinions regarding the COUNTRY ISSUES, not about how he feels about a lone female comic who was out of line in her attack on his appearance, or about how he responded to an insulting question he was asked by a rude, pretty face who wants to be the next Barbara Walters. (I still like Cruz and Huckabee).August 14, 2015 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #1096014
The question was, “does a man who calls women … have the temperament expected of a US president?” It was challenging his ability to execute his duties as president, no different than asking Dr. Carson about his lack of knowledge in foreign policy or when Ted Cruz was asked about calling Mitch <cConnel a liar.August 16, 2015 3:17 am at 3:17 am #1096015zogt_besserParticipant
how one responds to “insulting questions” seems to me to be very related to one’s leadership and communication skills, and good middos. the future president will face plenty of people who don’t like him and say insulting things about him. if he can’t keep contain himself, that is a leadership problem.August 16, 2015 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #1096016nfgo3Member
When Donald Trump first announced his candidacy, I figured he would be out of it in a month. When he insulted John McCain, I thought he would be gone in 3 weeks. When he insulted Megyn Kelly, I thought he would be gone in 3 days.
I now think he will be the Republican nominee, or the kingmaker of whoever gets the Republican nomination. If John Kasich stays away from Trump’s bad side, I think The Donald will back him and Kasich will be the nominee.August 17, 2015 12:45 am at 12:45 am #1096017teshuva5776Member
The more he feuds with career-politicians and the media, the higher his numbers will go. Generally speaking, the republican base is very tired of political correctness and the dishonesty and tactics of corporate media. Even if Trump has no concrete plans, the fact that he is not politically correct and that the media is trying very hard to discredit him is what is pushing his #s up. I think he will be the nominee as the rest are all career politicians and career politicians have lost the last 2 elections to democrats.
zogt_besser, I think the reason Donald is doing well is because most people believe the opposite. Being polite to those who insult you is not a characteristic of a strong leader. It is a characteristic of the current leadership and the GOP voters seem to want a hard-line negotiator type that won’t take insults or be pushed around easily.August 17, 2015 1:26 am at 1:26 am #1096018
While I don’t personally think Trump is particularly skilled in diplomacy, and he is not my first choice for President, I do believe he brings a refreshing blunt honesty to the table, a take no prisoners attitude, something that has been sorely lacking in Washington. He needs to learn to be a little more polished, restrained and eidel, but we have a VERY polished president, and he is anything BUT a leader, much less a good leader. I hear your concerns, and do not necesaarily disagree at all.August 17, 2015 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #1096019zogt_besserParticipant
teshuva- that’s a very sad definition of leadership (not yours, but the one you assigned to many american voters). “Being polite to those who insult you” is actually a paramount sign of strength, ala hakoveish es yitzro. on that topic, check out this sunday’s new york times (i generally dont recommend it) interview with Trump. In perfect form, he once again insults a woman’s looks, calls his opponents rude names, and talks about his great golf courses. rachmana litzlan…
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