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    jwashing
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    is anyone bothered by the double standards in some jewish magazines. On one page you have an article by a rav saying how over involvement in gashmiyas is the cause of the shiduch crisis but on the next you see an ad for pesach in crete or a dining room set for $2000

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    interjection
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    It’s not a double standard at all. The newspaper’s sole agenda is to make money. It does so by producing articles that people want to read and by selling ads.

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    jwashing
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    but is it right to promote spending tons of money on some fancy vacation for yom tov where people will be eating non stop when there are families who struggle to pay tuition and put food on the table

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    sharp
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    The publications do not promote the lifestyles in their advertisements and they don’t take responsibility.

    They run advertisements because that’s where most of their revenue lies. This is not a double standard.

    If all magazines would rely on subscriptions for their business, they’d be in trouble. Especially considering the fact that they cater to a very small market.

    #977888

    writersoul
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    People have the responsibility to decide what to do with their lives.

    The people who write these articles are espousing their own opinions, and, as is many times noted in the little blurb at the bottom, these views are not necessarily shared by the publication.

    The advertisers, as long as the services they advertise are in accordance to HALACHA and not some random person’s idea of what is proper, do nothing wrong by supplying and advertising these services. The same goes to the magazines.

    Many people who go to hotels go for other reasons than to act as spoiled rich brats while poor people are starving, believe it or not. Those who go to the luxury places are usually quite generous with tzedakah, and those who are not or are not enough will find out the truth after 120. Their life choices are their own and their consequences are their own.

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    The little I know
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    There is certainly a problem of double standards, but it is not the media. It is appropriate for certain people to have expensive furniture, and it is wonderful for certain people to go to hotels in obscure places for Yomim Tovim. Yes, these things are costly, and those who have the money are certainly entitled to evaluate whether such expenses are fitting for them. It is not for us to judge. I can’t so I don’t. But I cannot blame those who do.

    This question arises when luxuries are prioritized over such staples as tuition for yeshivos. And here is where conflict begins. Can one justify the cost of a summer in the Catskills while failing to pay schar limud? Can one justify extravagant simchos and trips to Eretz Yisroel while defaulting or demanding huge discounts on tuition?

    Poskim have spoken. Now, it is for people to prioritize properly. But their decisions are frankly not any of my business. I must keep myself squeaky clean. I was not placed here to run anyone else’s life.

    Don’t blame the media.

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    GeshmakMan
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    Jwashing – another solution is not to buy or support such “Jewish” Media.

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    Chortkov
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    is anyone bothered by the double standards in some jewish magazines. On one page you have an article by a rav saying how over involvement in gashmiyas is the cause of the shiduch crisis but on the next you see an ad for pesach in crete or a dining room set for $2000

    Not at all – the ad is for those with no unmarried kids, who don’t have a problem with the shidduch crisis!

    but is it right to promote spending tons of money on some fancy vacation for yom tov where people will be eating non stop when there are families who struggle to pay tuition and put food on the table

    Sorry sir, but I think you are a troll. If your problem with the ads are something to do with the Shidduch crisis, then why are you talking now about families who cannot afford? You are not at all talking about the double standard, nor are you complaining about people splashing out where others cannot, you are just trolling.

    #977892

    kasher
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    What do a Pesach program and Tish’a B’av have in common?

    People walk around in slippers and wait for the next meal….

    #977893

    apushatayid
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    Troll.

    #977894

    walton157
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    @jwashing: You are right about mixed messages. If you ever read magazines geared towards women (i.e., Good Housekeeping)there will be a whole article about dieting and on the next page a recipe for double, double chocholate chip cake.

    This is what life is about. Mixed messages. It’s up to us to use the brain that HaShem gave us to make our own decisions.

    In today’s world, where one child might live in Lakewood and one in Brooklyn, going away to a hotel for the Major Yom Tovim maybe the only times they can see each other.

    Please remember that those individuals who go away contribute to the economy. There is the managagment, hotel staff, mashgiach, food vendors, maintenance, cleaning crew, food vendors, paper good vendors and every other vendor in between. And don’t forget the house detective who makes sure everyone is safe.

    #977895

    rebdoniel
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    I agree that there is a discrepancy in values. If on Pesach, for instance, you go away to a hotel that costs thousands of dollars, and if there are workers there that are illegal immigrants, or who are getting underpaid and exploited, that is hypocrisy of the worst variety.

    #977896

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    @jwashing: You are right about mixed messages. If you ever read magazines geared towards women (i.e., Good Housekeeping)there will be a whole article about dieting and on the next page a recipe for double, double chocholate chip cake.

    Like you said. Plus, mixed audience- some are pulled by the diet articles, others by the rich recipes.

    #977897

    squeak
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    Do you mean like ads and articles published on websites like this one imploring you to disconnect from the internet?

    #977898

    ihear
    Member

    its all about the $$$$

    #977899

    popup
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    It’s not a double standard if u can afford the vacation, chill if you can’t don’t… the social pressure is everywhere wherever you go live, basically you decide whether to succumb to it or not… sometimes social conformity is okay in some situations too.

    Spending above your means is stupid(sometimes we do it just to feel apart of things)

    #977900

    Yserbius123
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    Is anyone upset in the double standards in Yiddishkeit? A 30 year old man with a good job and apartment is a schlepper, looser and nebbech but a 30 year old girl living in her parents house and a part-part-part-time job is such a sad story for such a wonderful maidel.

    Or a shadchan complains about people asking for support but will only set “Top guys in Lakewood” up with girls whose families have dough?

    #977901

    wallflower
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    We love everyone. There should be achdus between Jews. No kind of frumkeit is better than another.

    …well, except for W. And, I mean, can you really define X as frumkeit? And I guess Y is okay, but not “our type.” Oh, and I would never ever think of letting my kid date a Z.

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