Dressing up as a Nun, Munk,or Santa Claus for Purim
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February 16, 2010 2:39 am at 2:39 am #591238
Last year I dressed up as santa clous it received many diffrent kinds of reactions frum all my teachers sum thought it wuz hysterychl others….weren’t to happy;)its not assur rite??this year I came up with an ingenius plan let’s say I dress up like a monk I’ll wear a sighn that says”kol letzanusa deasera ela meletzanusa shel avoida zarah”ur allowed to make fun of getshkahs(avoida zarah)!February 16, 2010 2:41 am at 2:41 am #927295
that posuk is somewhere in gemara.it means”ur nt allowed to make fun of things,but making fun of avoida zarah is ok”February 16, 2010 2:41 am at 2:41 am #927296oomisParticipant
Peer, I wouldn’t do it. MAke fun of A”Z all you want, but maybe it’s not the best thing to dress in “their” clothing. It especially is offensive to a non-Jew to see a Jew do that.February 16, 2010 2:47 am at 2:47 am #927297
LOL but they don’t know ur making fun of them….unless they can read hebrw..4all we know they could think we like Santa…etc like last year as a 2knd costume I dressed up like obama people thought I liked him…little did they know it wuz all leitanusah(making fun)February 16, 2010 3:09 am at 3:09 am #927298tzippiMember
Tip to anyone wanting to dress up as a munk: A great accessory would be The World of Prayer.February 16, 2010 4:40 am at 4:40 am #927299mybatMember
I knew someone who dressed up like a pregnant nun!February 16, 2010 6:09 am at 6:09 am #927300anuranParticipant
Better a monk or nun than a Pictish warrior 🙂
(The ancient Picts went into battle dressed only in helmets and blue paint)February 16, 2010 8:42 am at 8:42 am #927301mamashtakahMember
Mybat, one year the Rebetzin of our shule was pregnant, and she dressed up as a nun!February 16, 2010 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm #927302Be HappyParticipant
Do we not have enough Jewish charachters that we have to dress up in theirs?????
What is with the parev ideas like international costumes?February 16, 2010 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #927303PosterMember
Why in the world would someone like to dress up like a NUN? SANTA CLAUS?
certainly you dont think it’s impressive…February 16, 2010 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #927304artchillParticipant
Maybe dress up like a missionary with a big wooden cross and yell, “I’ll save your soul”!!
Come on now! Purim is a Jewish holiday, not Saint Patrick’s Day.February 16, 2010 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #927305aries2756Participant
Purim is a Jewish Holiday and borrowing from the Goyim gives them a sense of validity. Why is it necessary to make fun of someone else’s religion. They are entitled to their religion. We are not looking for converts and we recognize that there are other religions in the world. By making fun of them we only promote them to make fun of us. WE walk through our neighborhoods and need to understand that others walk through and drive through our neighborhoods as well. In addition what are we really teaching our children when we do such things. Can we possibly know what is going through their heads when they see this?
Personally I think it is totally unacceptable. Would you think it was acceptable if your daughter wanted to wear a Brittany Spears or Miley Cyrus costume? You would think she wants to emulate her and not make fun of her. So NO I don’t think it is appropriate. It is also inappropriate to dress like a black slave. It is totally disrespectful and tasteless. Try to find a costume that represents someone you admire or something that is humorous. Poke fun at yourself if you will, or be original. But try to stay away from being controversial it won’t gain you anything but can cause a lot of damage. Don’t dress like a teenager who is at risk if your neighbor is going through the parsha, don’t dress like an old maid if your sister in law is still in the parsha and never got married. Don’t dress like a fat lady if your mother-in-law is overweight. Don’t put on a maternity belly if your sister-in-law doesn’t have any kids. Use your common sense to have fun without being hurtful or being a bad role model to anyone. Think about it, if a bunch of boys came in looking like Moshe Rabbeinu and a bunch of boys came in looking like the Pope who would you most likely give a larger check to?February 16, 2010 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #927308jphoneMember
How would you feel if on St. Patricks Day you saw people dressed like a Rabbonim drinking straight out of a keg of beer? Would you think it was funny if at the next “rainbow coalition” parade people dressed up like chassidim? You might think it is funny, they dont.
I remember, when I was in high school, there were some fellow who liked heckling one of the english teachers, a devout catholic. One day, to get under his skin they asked if they could “go to the pope” (the previous popes name was john). everyone thought this was so clever and witty, until the next day the teacher announced that he had to make a quick stop at the rabbi. Suddenly everyone was insulted and annoyed (he actually DID go to the office, but thats a separate story).February 4, 2013 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #927309aidelParticipant
Bad idea.February 4, 2013 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #927310WIYMember
Im sure there are non Jews that have and do dress up as chassidim to be funny at their holidays or parties where they dress up.February 4, 2013 8:35 pm at 8:35 pm #927311
Most of you are missing the point of why we dress up on Purim. We dress up because the Jews disguised themselves when the Gezayrah came out so save themselves. Some might have dressed as nuns or momks.There is nothing wrong with dressing like a goy because that is what actually happened!
Do you think Purim is Halloween where we just dress up?February 4, 2013 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #927312cherrybimParticipant
“Some might have dressed as nuns or momks.There is nothing wrong with dressing like a goy because that is what actually happened!”
And some may have dressed up as zonahs. It’s assur and it’s a stupid statement.February 4, 2013 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #927313
I dressed as Miss Clavelle one year, and my 2nd grader dressed as Madeline (from the Madeline book series). We were quite the hit, as I recall.February 4, 2013 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm #927314nfgo3Member
To mamashtakah: I find your post hard to believe. Please name the rebbetzin and the name and town or neighborhood of her shul, or withdraw your questionable prank.February 4, 2013 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #927315sheinMember
WIY: Walmart.com is selling a “rabbi costume” that is a fake shtreiemel and rekel.February 4, 2013 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm #927316
no fun to dress up as a nun? what fun can a nun possibly have? None!February 4, 2013 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm #927317
or artchill; perhaps the missionary will come in with his cross and say can you please put me up for the night!February 5, 2013 12:24 am at 12:24 am #927318
cherrybim- I agree you made a stupid statement. Even goyim (normal ones) would not let their kids dress like Zonahs.February 5, 2013 1:00 am at 1:00 am #927319supermeMember
NOWAY UR TAKING A JEWISH HOLIDAY AND MAKKING IT GOYISH NO NO AND NO!!! IF I WLD C U ON PURIM I WLD COMMENT!!! ANDI DON’T ESPECIALLY IN OUBLIC IM SHY BUT I WILL SAY SOMETHINGFebruary 5, 2013 1:45 am at 1:45 am #927320rebdonielMember
I went to a chatuna on December 25th.
The chatan’s buddies did some kind of a shtick involving Santa Claus hats.
I was very put off by that, but didn’t want to make a macha’ah since it was an otherwise joyous occasion. OTOH, the fact that this was a chatuna where the most scum secular heavy metal/rap tunes were being played was very troubling to me. I also chuckled to myself when men dressed in the kedusha of the spiffy spodek processed to Elton John tunes.February 5, 2013 2:07 am at 2:07 am #927321OneOfManyParticipant
I dressed up as the Witch-King of Angmar when I was nine (no, I’m not joking). I made a Morgul blade out of wooden cooking skewers and aluminum foil. ^_^February 5, 2013 2:30 am at 2:30 am #927322ajewfrommonseyParticipant
my israeli neighbor in Eretz Yisroel, proudly showed my wife the homemade costume she had made of a “clown”. it was a santa claus costume, she had bought a red hat in a bag and thinking it was a clown, followed the picture on the header. my wife called R’ Sheinberg zt”l, he had a good laugh and then said that we should explain it to them what it really was so they could change it.February 5, 2013 3:02 am at 3:02 am #927323sam4321Participant
See the Igros Moshe YD:1:81 who brings the Rama who brings the Ran to asser goyish clothing for two reasons (see tshuvah). Whatever the case may be even if it is done in jest(maybe a heter,hard to hear)it doesn’t seem like the appropriate thing to do on purimFebruary 5, 2013 3:06 am at 3:06 am #927324yaakov doeParticipant
anon1m0us Today a lot of mothers let their children dress as zonahs. In some cultures it’s considered appropriate!
A galach or a pregnant nun for Purim is quite common, but because of the scandals it may not be wise to dress as a galach.February 5, 2013 3:30 am at 3:30 am #927325
rebdoniel; my mother A”H, two months ago, always looked for the positive
in someone or a situation. If you cholila began to talk loshon hora
about someone she would very politely change the topic so not even by remiza would you understand. It is time in these forums people start to see the good in others and not all this negativeness. I am appalled that Yidden shomrei toira & mitzvois are stooping to these low levels and of course to degrade themselves. consult your local Rov regarding this matter and I am quite sure his opinion of how you express yourself will perhaps surprise you. Torah Yidden try always to look for the good in other Yidden So in conclusion if it is okay with you please raise the bar here a notch or two or three.
Hazlocho meruba and kol tuvFebruary 5, 2013 6:20 am at 6:20 am #927326SaysMeMember
It is time in these forums people start to see the good in others and not all this negativeness…… Torah Yidden try always to look for the good in other Yidden So in conclusion if it is okay with you please raise the bar here a notch or two or three.
+2 for a friend!February 5, 2013 6:44 am at 6:44 am #927327Sam2Participant
A priest or nun is definitely as Issur D’Oraisa of Chukas HaGoyim. Santa I’m not sure about, because the costume was made originally by Coca-Cola and the religious part of it may have been borrowed later. And I’m not sure whether that matters, in either directions.February 5, 2013 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #927328
To mamashtakah: I find your post hard to believe. Please name the rebbetzin and the name and town or neighborhood of her shul, or withdraw your questionable prank.
You’re going to argue with something that was posted two years ago?
What if he does name the rebbetzin? What would it accomplish? Would you go and take away her “teudat rebbetzin?” Would you tattle to her husband? Guess what – her husband, the shule rabbi, was there, and he saw her!February 5, 2013 2:43 pm at 2:43 pm #927329ConfuciousMember
Why did mamashtakah become takahmamash?February 5, 2013 4:34 pm at 4:34 pm #927330rebdonielMember
I am not backing away from what I said. Years before I became Orthodox, I knew that rap music and most secular music of the past 40 years was little more than sex, smut, perversion, violence, and misogyny. For Jews to invite this into their lives and to start a marriage off on this foot is a bad idea. Likewise, aping Santa Claus is a shonda.February 5, 2013 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #927331
Sam2: Dreassing up like a woman is a D’Orasa of “Lo Silbosh”, however, the Mishna Breura poskens on Purim one is allowed to dress up like a women. The same would apply to dressing up like a Nun, Priest, or Monk.February 5, 2013 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #927332
Why did mamashtakah become takahmamash?
Because Mamashtakah had a problem with the password, and despite repeated entreaties to the mods, there was no response to fix the problem. Therefore, I switched to Takahmamash.
“Two great tastes that taste great together!”February 5, 2013 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #927334haifagirlParticipant
Many years ago my friend’s son was about 5 and wanted to dress up as Achashverosh. She didn’t think that was appropriate, so he got to wear the same costume, but she explained that he was really Mordechai wearing the king’s clothes.February 5, 2013 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm #927335WIYMember
The emperor has no clothes.February 6, 2013 4:59 am at 4:59 am #927336Sam2Participant
anon: The Rama says that and the Achronim all try and minimize it as much as possible. And I’m not sure what proof that is. The Rama is relying on Rashi Al HaTorah and saying that since it’s not for Pritzus, Begged Ishah doesn’t apply on Purim. How would that allow us to be Mattir a different Issur D’Oraisa just because it’s Purim?February 6, 2013 3:45 pm at 3:45 pm #927337cherrybimParticipant
“The same would apply to dressing up like a Nun, Priest, or Monk.”
I dare you to ask your Rav and get a heter; because it’s stupid and assur. Let us know his answer.February 6, 2013 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm #927338Kosher HamMember
Peerimsameach: Better than dressing as a monk (notice the correct spelling), I think that you should dress as an Imam. That way you’d get stopped by DHS at any transportation facility and the NYPD would be spying on you.February 6, 2013 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm #927339
Sam2: The difference between us is that I do not consider dressing like a nun an issur d’oraysa of Chukas Hagoyim so dressing like a women is much worse than a nun but it is still muter on purim.
cherrybim: Yes, my rav will say tZe Pasht Nisht, but we are talking about usser.February 6, 2013 11:14 pm at 11:14 pm #927340supermeMember
??????? is fine that’s from a Jewish religion!!!!
I spoke this q over with my fiends they all admitted that dressing up as any of these is awful and aveirah bec ur mixing GOYISH into JEWISHFebruary 7, 2013 8:45 am at 8:45 am #927341BSDMember
A Nun, a Priest, and a Monk walk into a bar.
“Hey what is this,” cries the bartender, “Purim or something?”
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