Dressing up as a Nun, Munk,or Santa Claus for Purim

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    Peerimsameach
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    Last year I dressed up as santa clous it received many diffrent kinds of reactions frum all my teachers sum thought it wuz hysterychl others….weren’t to happy;)its not assur rite??this year I came up with an ingenius plan let’s say I dress up like a monk I’ll wear a sighn that says”kol letzanusa deasera ela meletzanusa shel avoida zarah”ur allowed to make fun of getshkahs(avoida zarah)!

    #927295

    Peerimsameach
    Participant

    that posuk is somewhere in gemara.it means”ur nt allowed to make fun of things,but making fun of avoida zarah is ok”

    #927296

    oomis
    Participant

    Peer, I wouldn’t do it. MAke fun of A”Z all you want, but maybe it’s not the best thing to dress in “their” clothing. It especially is offensive to a non-Jew to see a Jew do that.

    #927297

    Peerimsameach
    Participant

    LOL but they don’t know ur making fun of them….unless they can read hebrw..4all we know they could think we like Santa…etc like last year as a 2knd costume I dressed up like obama people thought I liked him…little did they know it wuz all leitanusah(making fun)

    #927298

    tzippi
    Member

    Tip to anyone wanting to dress up as a munk: A great accessory would be The World of Prayer.

    #927299

    mybat
    Member

    I knew someone who dressed up like a pregnant nun!

    #927300

    anuran
    Participant

    Better a monk or nun than a Pictish warrior 🙂

    (The ancient Picts went into battle dressed only in helmets and blue paint)

    #927301

    mamashtakah
    Member

    Mybat, one year the Rebetzin of our shule was pregnant, and she dressed up as a nun!

    #927302

    Be Happy
    Participant

    Do we not have enough Jewish charachters that we have to dress up in theirs?????

    What is with the parev ideas like international costumes?

    #927303

    Poster
    Member

    Why in the world would someone like to dress up like a NUN? SANTA CLAUS?

    certainly you dont think it’s impressive…

    #927304

    artchill
    Participant

    Maybe dress up like a missionary with a big wooden cross and yell, “I’ll save your soul”!!

    Come on now! Purim is a Jewish holiday, not Saint Patrick’s Day.

    #927305

    aries2756
    Participant

    Purim is a Jewish Holiday and borrowing from the Goyim gives them a sense of validity. Why is it necessary to make fun of someone else’s religion. They are entitled to their religion. We are not looking for converts and we recognize that there are other religions in the world. By making fun of them we only promote them to make fun of us. WE walk through our neighborhoods and need to understand that others walk through and drive through our neighborhoods as well. In addition what are we really teaching our children when we do such things. Can we possibly know what is going through their heads when they see this?

    Personally I think it is totally unacceptable. Would you think it was acceptable if your daughter wanted to wear a Brittany Spears or Miley Cyrus costume? You would think she wants to emulate her and not make fun of her. So NO I don’t think it is appropriate. It is also inappropriate to dress like a black slave. It is totally disrespectful and tasteless. Try to find a costume that represents someone you admire or something that is humorous. Poke fun at yourself if you will, or be original. But try to stay away from being controversial it won’t gain you anything but can cause a lot of damage. Don’t dress like a teenager who is at risk if your neighbor is going through the parsha, don’t dress like an old maid if your sister in law is still in the parsha and never got married. Don’t dress like a fat lady if your mother-in-law is overweight. Don’t put on a maternity belly if your sister-in-law doesn’t have any kids. Use your common sense to have fun without being hurtful or being a bad role model to anyone. Think about it, if a bunch of boys came in looking like Moshe Rabbeinu and a bunch of boys came in looking like the Pope who would you most likely give a larger check to?

    #927308

    jphone
    Member

    How would you feel if on St. Patricks Day you saw people dressed like a Rabbonim drinking straight out of a keg of beer? Would you think it was funny if at the next “rainbow coalition” parade people dressed up like chassidim? You might think it is funny, they dont.

    I remember, when I was in high school, there were some fellow who liked heckling one of the english teachers, a devout catholic. One day, to get under his skin they asked if they could “go to the pope” (the previous popes name was john). everyone thought this was so clever and witty, until the next day the teacher announced that he had to make a quick stop at the rabbi. Suddenly everyone was insulted and annoyed (he actually DID go to the office, but thats a separate story).

    #927309

    aidel
    Participant

    Bad idea.

    #927310

    WIY
    Member

    jphone

    Im sure there are non Jews that have and do dress up as chassidim to be funny at their holidays or parties where they dress up.

    #927311

    anon1m0us
    Participant

    Most of you are missing the point of why we dress up on Purim. We dress up because the Jews disguised themselves when the Gezayrah came out so save themselves. Some might have dressed as nuns or momks.There is nothing wrong with dressing like a goy because that is what actually happened!

    Do you think Purim is Halloween where we just dress up?

    #927312

    cherrybim
    Participant

    “Some might have dressed as nuns or momks.There is nothing wrong with dressing like a goy because that is what actually happened!”

    And some may have dressed up as zonahs. It’s assur and it’s a stupid statement.

    #927313

    takahmamash
    Participant

    I dressed as Miss Clavelle one year, and my 2nd grader dressed as Madeline (from the Madeline book series). We were quite the hit, as I recall.

    #927314

    nfgo3
    Member

    To mamashtakah: I find your post hard to believe. Please name the rebbetzin and the name and town or neighborhood of her shul, or withdraw your questionable prank.

    #927315

    shein
    Member

    WIY: Walmart.com is selling a “rabbi costume” that is a fake shtreiemel and rekel.

    #927316

    springbok007
    Participant

    no fun to dress up as a nun? what fun can a nun possibly have? None!

    #927317

    springbok007
    Participant

    or artchill; perhaps the missionary will come in with his cross and say can you please put me up for the night!

    #927318

    anon1m0us
    Participant

    cherrybim- I agree you made a stupid statement. Even goyim (normal ones) would not let their kids dress like Zonahs.

    #927319

    superme
    Member

    NOWAY UR TAKING A JEWISH HOLIDAY AND MAKKING IT GOYISH NO NO AND NO!!! IF I WLD C U ON PURIM I WLD COMMENT!!! ANDI DON’T ESPECIALLY IN OUBLIC IM SHY BUT I WILL SAY SOMETHING

    #927320

    rebdoniel
    Member

    I went to a chatuna on December 25th.

    The chatan’s buddies did some kind of a shtick involving Santa Claus hats.

    I was very put off by that, but didn’t want to make a macha’ah since it was an otherwise joyous occasion. OTOH, the fact that this was a chatuna where the most scum secular heavy metal/rap tunes were being played was very troubling to me. I also chuckled to myself when men dressed in the kedusha of the spiffy spodek processed to Elton John tunes.

    #927321

    OneOfMany
    Participant

    I dressed up as the Witch-King of Angmar when I was nine (no, I’m not joking). I made a Morgul blade out of wooden cooking skewers and aluminum foil. ^_^

    #927322

    ajewfrommonsey
    Participant

    my israeli neighbor in Eretz Yisroel, proudly showed my wife the homemade costume she had made of a “clown”. it was a santa claus costume, she had bought a red hat in a bag and thinking it was a clown, followed the picture on the header. my wife called R’ Sheinberg zt”l, he had a good laugh and then said that we should explain it to them what it really was so they could change it.

    #927323

    sam4321
    Participant

    See the Igros Moshe YD:1:81 who brings the Rama who brings the Ran to asser goyish clothing for two reasons (see tshuvah). Whatever the case may be even if it is done in jest(maybe a heter,hard to hear)it doesn’t seem like the appropriate thing to do on purim

    #927324

    yaakov doe
    Participant

    anon1m0us Today a lot of mothers let their children dress as zonahs. In some cultures it’s considered appropriate!

    A galach or a pregnant nun for Purim is quite common, but because of the scandals it may not be wise to dress as a galach.

    #927325

    springbok007
    Participant

    rebdoniel; my mother A”H, two months ago, always looked for the positive

    in someone or a situation. If you cholila began to talk loshon hora

    about someone she would very politely change the topic so not even by remiza would you understand. It is time in these forums people start to see the good in others and not all this negativeness. I am appalled that Yidden shomrei toira & mitzvois are stooping to these low levels and of course to degrade themselves. consult your local Rov regarding this matter and I am quite sure his opinion of how you express yourself will perhaps surprise you. Torah Yidden try always to look for the good in other Yidden So in conclusion if it is okay with you please raise the bar here a notch or two or three.

    Hazlocho meruba and kol tuv

    #927326

    SaysMe
    Member

    It is time in these forums people start to see the good in others and not all this negativeness…… Torah Yidden try always to look for the good in other Yidden So in conclusion if it is okay with you please raise the bar here a notch or two or three.

    +2 for a friend!

    #927327

    Sam2
    Participant

    A priest or nun is definitely as Issur D’Oraisa of Chukas HaGoyim. Santa I’m not sure about, because the costume was made originally by Coca-Cola and the religious part of it may have been borrowed later. And I’m not sure whether that matters, in either directions.

    #927328

    takahmamash
    Participant

    nfgo3:

    To mamashtakah: I find your post hard to believe. Please name the rebbetzin and the name and town or neighborhood of her shul, or withdraw your questionable prank.

    You’re going to argue with something that was posted two years ago?

    What if he does name the rebbetzin? What would it accomplish? Would you go and take away her “teudat rebbetzin?” Would you tattle to her husband? Guess what – her husband, the shule rabbi, was there, and he saw her!

    #927329

    Confucious
    Member

    Why did mamashtakah become takahmamash?

    #927330

    rebdoniel
    Member

    I am not backing away from what I said. Years before I became Orthodox, I knew that rap music and most secular music of the past 40 years was little more than sex, smut, perversion, violence, and misogyny. For Jews to invite this into their lives and to start a marriage off on this foot is a bad idea. Likewise, aping Santa Claus is a shonda.

    #927331

    anon1m0us
    Participant

    Sam2: Dreassing up like a woman is a D’Orasa of “Lo Silbosh”, however, the Mishna Breura poskens on Purim one is allowed to dress up like a women. The same would apply to dressing up like a Nun, Priest, or Monk.

    #927332

    takahmamash
    Participant

    Confucious:

    Why did mamashtakah become takahmamash?

    Because Mamashtakah had a problem with the password, and despite repeated entreaties to the mods, there was no response to fix the problem. Therefore, I switched to Takahmamash.

    “Two great tastes that taste great together!”

    #927334

    haifagirl
    Participant

    Many years ago my friend’s son was about 5 and wanted to dress up as Achashverosh. She didn’t think that was appropriate, so he got to wear the same costume, but she explained that he was really Mordechai wearing the king’s clothes.

    #927335

    WIY
    Member

    haifagirl

    The emperor has no clothes.

    #927336

    Sam2
    Participant

    anon: The Rama says that and the Achronim all try and minimize it as much as possible. And I’m not sure what proof that is. The Rama is relying on Rashi Al HaTorah and saying that since it’s not for Pritzus, Begged Ishah doesn’t apply on Purim. How would that allow us to be Mattir a different Issur D’Oraisa just because it’s Purim?

    #927337

    cherrybim
    Participant

    “The same would apply to dressing up like a Nun, Priest, or Monk.”

    I dare you to ask your Rav and get a heter; because it’s stupid and assur. Let us know his answer.

    #927338

    Kosher Ham
    Member

    Peerimsameach: Better than dressing as a monk (notice the correct spelling), I think that you should dress as an Imam. That way you’d get stopped by DHS at any transportation facility and the NYPD would be spying on you.

    #927339

    anon1m0us
    Participant

    Sam2: The difference between us is that I do not consider dressing like a nun an issur d’oraysa of Chukas Hagoyim so dressing like a women is much worse than a nun but it is still muter on purim.

    cherrybim: Yes, my rav will say tZe Pasht Nisht, but we are talking about usser.

    #927340

    superme
    Member

    ??????? is fine that’s from a Jewish religion!!!!

    I spoke this q over with my fiends they all admitted that dressing up as any of these is awful and aveirah bec ur mixing GOYISH into JEWISH

    #927341

    BSD
    Member

    A Nun, a Priest, and a Monk walk into a bar.

    “Hey what is this,” cries the bartender, “Purim or something?”

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