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January 11, 2012 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #601586popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Since you are all the second word of my current subtitle, I have decided to tell you some of my secrets for driving.
In this first post, I will address the Triboro (RFK) and Whitestone Bridges, which should not really exist.
To travel from Long Island (Queens, Brooklyn) to the Bronx or Westchester without paying tolls, do this:
1. Take one of the free East River bridges to Manhattan. (Brooklyn, Manhattan, Williamsburg, 59th Street Bridges)
2. Take FDR north past the Triboro (RFK) to the small “Willis Avenue Bridge” which crosses the Harlem River and is free. Or, the 3rd avenue, or Madison Avenue, or 145th Street, or Macombs Dam Bridge, or Washington Bridge (by 181st), or W Fordham Road, or Broadway.
3. There is no step 3; there are only two steps. And you still couldn’t figure it out.
More brilliance to come, sometime.
January 11, 2012 7:26 pm at 7:26 pm #928944☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantOne word answer:
traffic
January 11, 2012 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #928945HaLeiViParticipantPopa, that’s the Kuntz? Let me see you get from New Jersey to Brooklyn without paying toll (or a fine).
January 11, 2012 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #928946popa_bar_abbaParticipantLet me see you get from New Jersey to Brooklyn without paying toll (or a fine).
Easy.
Take the Dunn Memorial Bridge. Then go south until you do my trick above in reverse by taking 3rd avenue bridge to manhattan, and brooklyn bridge to brooklyn. Stop off in the Brooklyn Marriott on your way across to daven maariv with all the guys on dates.
January 11, 2012 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #928947popa_bar_abbaParticipantOne word answer:
traffic
Of course there is more traffic. That is because everybody goes that way.
I once had a summer job, and there was a major highway which went right there, but had terrible traffic. So I spent the first month trying different ways to get home quicker. Then I realized what all those people on the highway already knew: that it was the fastest way to go.
Sometimes you think you are being a chochom, but it pays to watch what other people are doing. “Everyone else” is usually correct.
January 11, 2012 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm #928948popa_bar_abbaParticipantNote: You cannot take the willis avenue bridge from bronx to manhattan, because of construction.
January 11, 2012 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #928949BTGuyParticipantSee what all that caffeine does.
Somehow I picture you driving in fast forward. lol
January 11, 2012 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #928950yitayningwutParticipantDunn Memorial Bridge? As in the one in Albany?
January 11, 2012 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #928951littleappleMemberpopa Dunn Memorial Bridge
What & where is this?
January 11, 2012 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #928952popa_bar_abbaParticipantDunn Memorial Bridge
What & where is this?
It is the southernmost Hudson River crossing without a toll. Yitayningwut points out that it is near Albany, New York.
Alternatively, you could take the Bear Mountain Bridge, which is one dollar, and is a couple miles closer.
January 11, 2012 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #928953☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantOf course there is more traffic. That is because everybody goes that way.
Because they’re cheap, not because they’re in a hurry.
You reminded me, by the way, of Yogi Berra’s comment that nobody goes to a certain restaurant anymore, because it’s always too crowded.
January 11, 2012 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #928954yitayningwutParticipantOkay, so I’ll revise HaLeiVi’s question:
Let me see you get from New Jersey to Brooklyn without paying toll (or a fine) – and without paying six times the amount for gas!
January 11, 2012 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #928955efsherPUNKTfarkertParticipantonly MILDLY Retarted???????????
January 11, 2012 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #928956squeakParticipantToll on 87 buddy, unless you plan on riding local streets down from the Dunn.
The traffic on the free East River bridges and FDR that you will encounter isn’t people doing your route. You are the only one going that way because any chochom will pay the toll and do the direct route. Sorry.
January 11, 2012 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #928957popa_bar_abbaParticipantLet me see you get from New Jersey to Brooklyn without paying toll (or a fine) – and without paying six times the amount for gas!
Anyone could do that. The shtick is to bring your car with you.
January 11, 2012 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #928958littleappleMemberyitay: Park in Jersey City take the water taxi to downtown, pick up a zipcar and go over the Brooklyn bridge, how’s that?
January 11, 2012 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #928959popa_bar_abbaParticipantsqueak: Now, which of us is wearing out the other by making them respond to ridiculous things?
Besides, according to google maps, my way is one minute faster. Compare http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Vernon+Blvd&daddr=Bruckner+Blvd&hl=en&sll=40.783206,-73.933182&sspn=0.018262,0.042272&geocode=FUzZbQId25yX-w%3BFeyobgIdzvaX-w&vpsrc=6&mra=mru&t=m&z=13 with http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Vernon+Blvd&daddr=40.7856378,-73.9297773+to:Bruckner+Blvd&hl=en&sll=40.783206,-73.933182&sspn=0.018262,0.042272&geocode=FUzZbQId25yX-w%3BFeVWbgIdz-uX-yl_-Vmr-fXCiTEqnCkm8mMzPA%3BFeyobgIdzvaX-w&vpsrc=0&mra=dpe&mrsp=1&sz=15&via=1&t=m&z=15
January 11, 2012 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #928960squeakParticipantTouche if you had stopped there. But you did yourself in with the “besides”. Only a real OOT hick redneck Rube would think that the times on google maps mean anything in NY. Now I doubt that tou’ve ever driven in NY. Its a one minute difference if you are in post apocalypse NY. Otherwise, its plus 60 minutes or more.
January 11, 2012 9:29 pm at 9:29 pm #928961popa_bar_abbaParticipantYou clearly didn’t click on the links.
January 11, 2012 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #928962moi aussiMemberI thought the mods don’t allow outside links, but then again popa is no outsider.
January 11, 2012 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #928963yitayningwutParticipantGenius. Ul’ta’ameich just take a bus anywhere you need to go, and you never have to pay tolls while traveling.
January 11, 2012 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm #928964charlie brownMemberGenius. Ul’ta’ameich just take a bus anywhere you need to go, and you never have to pay tolls while traveling.
even better, take a helicopter. No tolls and much faster than a bus.
January 12, 2012 12:40 am at 12:40 am #928965squeakParticipantIndeed I did not click on the links. What gave it away?
Call me arrogant if you will, but I feel that I have nothing to learn from google maps about driving in the ny metro area. I could do either route in my sleep (and I have, once).
January 12, 2012 1:05 am at 1:05 am #928966BaalHaboozeParticipantPopa, you are soooo 2011!
I got myself a second generation jetpack this past summer that allows me to go ANYWHERE in the quickest, cheapest, and funnest way. Why deal with traffic, gas stations, or even bridges when you can tango with the Canadian geese or drop raw eggs on churches from 1000 ft up as you leisurely glide to you destination? People who deal with cars these days, tsk tsk, I mean are you for real?! Powered skydiving is the way to go, friends.
oh, and did I mention the view?
January 12, 2012 2:46 am at 2:46 am #928967squeakParticipantpopa_bar_abba
Mildly Retarded
Since you are all the second word of my current subtitle, I have decided to tell you some of my secrets for driving.
Request for Mods: Can you please modify popa’s subtitle again, slightly? I’m looking for something where the second word changes…. for humor’s sake in posterity. May I suggest, “Rarely Decent, Mildly Retarded and Eccentric”? It will be fun. TIA.
January 12, 2012 3:43 am at 3:43 am #928968popa_bar_abbaParticipantIndeed I did not click on the links. What gave it away?
The “to” and “from” location were selectively chosen. A block or so from each of my two bridges. The times would be very different if going from Flatbush or Kew Gardens Hills.
January 12, 2012 3:49 am at 3:49 am #928969HaLeiViParticipantA helicopter will cost you a lot of fuel. I’d suggest using a blimp. Finding parking might be a bit of a challenge.
January 12, 2012 4:23 am at 4:23 am #928970gefenParticipantNebach – I see popa is off his meds again. Refuah Shelayma.
Squeak- thanks for your idea. Now we are all decent. I was really worried about being retarded.
January 12, 2012 4:40 am at 4:40 am #928971real-briskerMemberePf – Wow! This is your second post, and your a member for 4 1/2 years!
January 12, 2012 6:15 am at 6:15 am #928972WIYMemberreal-brisker
I guess hes not a big talker…
January 12, 2012 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #928973popa_bar_abbaParticipantTrick for remembering how to get to the LIE from the Queensboro Bridge.
The problem is, that there are three places to drive on the bridge, and you need to remember how to get to the LIE from each one. That is, you can be on the upper level, lower level, or outer roadway.
Of course, you could brute force it and just remember each one, but there is a much easier way to do it. Just remembering one klal can give you the whole thing.
If any of you can figure it out, I will stop using any adjective of your choice on this forum, for a week.
January 12, 2012 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm #928974real-briskerMemberWIY – Or he has more than one…
January 12, 2012 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #928975littleappleMemberpba: i drove that route frequently in the somewhat distant past but I always went thru Queens Plaza got over to the right for the beginning of Queens Blvd. but then cut right on Van Dam and sraight a few lights then under the LIE and left to the entrance.
January 12, 2012 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #928976popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhat about from the outer roadway?
January 13, 2012 12:27 am at 12:27 am #928977littleappleMemberI remember there was something tricky there, separate exit ramp or something, is it still like that?
January 13, 2012 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #928978squeakParticipantlol, popa got a new subtitle. How nice of the mod to just take my suggestion like that! Thanks!
Popa, no hard feelings I hope 🙂 I’ve had “driving in the car with popa” TTTO “Lucy in the Sky” going through my head for two days now.
January 25, 2012 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #928979popa_bar_abbaParticipantSo I took my car to the fix it shop because it was making a funny noise which was not the hah hah kind. More like the hee hee kind.
So I talk to the manager who is maybe arabic or maybe not and his name tag says “Wally.” So then I know that his name is anything except Wally.
So then he tells me his name is Walleed.
January 25, 2012 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #928980yungerman1ParticipantLOL! pba- you should seriously consider doing standup comedy.. or maybe you already do? In that case, you must be….!!!
January 25, 2012 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #928981popa_bar_abbaParticipantThanks yungerman.
I only do comedy on online forums. And I regularly get banned from those.
January 25, 2012 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #928982ED IT ORParticipanthey look at the first post in here,
thanks for the compliment!
January 25, 2012 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #928983popa_bar_abbaParticipantcrazy: subtitle has been amended to reflect my current status, as noted in the thread. Previous cross-references have not been updated, however.
January 25, 2012 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #928984popa_bar_abbaParticipantIn the second post on this thread, I will address the DE turnpike toll.
The state of Delaware, is populated by bloodsuckers who specialize in producing nothing, and extracting income from the rest of the country.
One incident of this, is the DE turnpike. While driving on I-95 between Baltimore and New York, one pays tolls to NJ and DE for use of their road.
NJ charges a pretty normal fee for use of their road, and you pay per mile. The cost per mile if you travel the entire length is 13.85/122=0.11 cents per mile.
The DE turnpike is 11.2 miles long, and costs 4 dollars, for a confiscatory total of 35 cents per mile.
Luckily, the DE people are also stupid, so it is easy to avoid. Simply get off the highway on the last exit before the toll in each direction, and let your GPS reroute you to the next entrance.
(The other example of bloodsucking is how they managed to get ever corporation to incorporate there.)
January 25, 2012 11:39 pm at 11:39 pm #928985squeakParticipantThat is a perfect example of why I hate GPS. I discovered that trick 30 years ago and no one wised up to the stupidity, but now that every idiot can effortlessly do the bypass I have a feeling it will be stopped.
January 26, 2012 3:06 am at 3:06 am #928986popa_bar_abbaParticipantOk. Nobody prompted me, so I’ll make my joke anyway.
Why didn’t I mention that you can avoid much of the NJ turnpike by taking 295? Because then you would ask why I didn’t mention that you can avoid the Susquehanna River bridge by getting off, driving a few miles down, and crossing a different bridge that you pay $10 per year for unlimited crossing.
And why didn’t I want to mention that? Because only people from Baltimore drive the route often enough that they should pay 10 for unlimited (which is obviously only worth it if you know you will cross it 3 times, and the toll is one way only). And I have never met anyone from Baltimore who is intelligent enough to be able to follow the directions and do any of these tricks.
Squeak: They can’t really stop us, except by putting a toll on the other roads in the area, since you could avoid the entire 11.2 miles.
January 26, 2012 4:58 am at 4:58 am #928987dash™ParticipantThat is a perfect example of why I hate GPS. I discovered that trick 30 years ago and no one wised up to the stupidity, but now that every idiot can effortlessly do the bypass I have a feeling it will be stopped.
Don’t worry, these idiots are still trying to figure out how to get to Staten Island.
January 26, 2012 5:03 am at 5:03 am #928988Think firstMemberAnd israeli fellow who don’t speak or read much english borrowed my GPS and hit the “avoid toll roads” options when trying to go from monsey to broklyn, well guess what he was headed to the Dunn memorial bridge, to cross the hudsoon without tolls. He was wondering why it took him so long?!???!?
Well, there ya have it.
January 26, 2012 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #928989squeakParticipantPopa, at any time they could put a toll plaza on the re-entry ramp. Of course, I’m talking about stopping us from taking the two minute detour that just skips the toll. You’re right that you could bypass the entire road, either by slow roads or on rt. 40 (which is a slow road too), but that is not worth it.
January 26, 2012 1:51 pm at 1:51 pm #928990squeakParticipantAlso, if we’re really sharing tips, you should only take 295 on the way back when the Gap bridge is free. On the way there you should be on 95.
January 26, 2012 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #928991popa_bar_abbaParticipantThey can’t put a toll anywhere outside their state. And since the state is only 11 miles long, it is not such a big deal to avoid the whole thing. Unless they put tolls on the side roads, which I don’t think they’ll do because the locals will go ballistic.
Now, if they put tolls on the side roads, and exempted the locals, we would have a problem. But, already I’m starting to wonder if it might violate the Dormant Commerce Clause as an illegal restraint on interstate commerce.
January 26, 2012 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #928992apushatayidParticipantOne can always head over to Fort Lee, NJ bike across the GWB, down the West Side to the Brooklyn Bridge, save the tolls and still catch Maariv at the Marriot.
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