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Many communities don’t have such a major issue for example:Baltimore md
Totally overrated. We should get rid of it.
FF -“Drug crisis in Jewish community IS overrated!!!!”
That depends on your perspective.
I think all problems in the Frum community aren’t dealt with. And even things that recently e/o is aware of – there are many people still in Denial!
With regards to Drug Abuse, abuse of alcohol is more common.
I haven’t seen most people taking this very seriously; i.e. limiting alcohol at Simchas.is that a joke? baltimore probably has one of the biggest issues per capita
Torah is my drug of choice. I’m thoroughly addicted.
To the OP:
You are either uninformed, in denial, or simply lying. Baltimore is no different than any other community, and it has its share of every one of the painful issues that the frum oilem prefers to ignore.
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Baltimore is a wonderful community, but it unfortunately is not immune to the addiction epidemic which has been sweeping our larger community worldwide.
Freddyfish:
You claim to be in the know. How is that? My connections in Baltimore tell me the situation is no different from any other Jewish community. Some data please.
If there is one Jew on drugs in any community, it’s not overrated. Also, even if there are NO Jews on drugs in Baltimore, what difference does it make? It’s still a crisis, even if it’s only in one community.
I don’t see how you can know how small a problem is, even if you’ve been there 20 years.
Unless you personally know every single person in the place, how would it possible for you to know how many people are not on drugs?
Freddyfish, you seem very naive to what a drug problem is. It’s not people walking around in a daze high as a kite all day. You really wouldn’t know.
I live in baltimore. Some of my friends have drug problems. i also know guys in lakewood who know what goes on. there is a drug problem in batimore, but it is not as bad as lakewood. I dont know how it is in new york.
@freddyfish…because while youve been there for 20 yrs ive been there for over 30 and am involved with trying to helpimg in this issue…so pleass dont talk when you obviously do not know.
I can not believe I am writing this because it seems to be so obvious, but lack of evidence for something (especially your lack of anecdotal evidence) is not proof that something does not exist. I am very glad for you that in your circles you have not run in to any drug use and then you are so disconnected that you think that no one with a drug problem passes your scrutinizing eye, because it is so easy and obvious to know who is on drugs, but I know from personal experience and from friends and family members that even in the holy city of Baltimore there is a fire burning. I beg you wholeheartedly do not blind your own eyes because being naive will only make the problem worse. I know rachmana letzlan of individuals who’s children perished in their own homes and the parents “Never even had any clue our son was doing drugs.” Just because you can not pick out the people around you who have horrible anguish hidden in their heart and have fallen into a trap that has set the path to a living hell in front of them, does not mean it is not happening in your very own surroundings.
Serious crisis, compared to what. Compared to tuition (okay not really). Compared to medical conditions related to being overweight (probably affect most people by middle age). On the other hand, drugs are probably a bigger problem for American Jews than fear of pogroms, anti-Semitism, people starving due to lack of food, and all sorts of problems that were once a big concern of Jews. It is a measure of our high quality of life that abuse of prescription drugs is now a problem. Our ancestors (for whom pain relief was limited to alcohol) would envy us and same somthing like “you should have such a problem?”.
LU: “I don’t see how you can know how small a problem is, even if you’ve been there 20 years.
Unless you personally know every single person in the place, how would it possible for you to know how many people are not on drugs?”FF: “Lu it’s very simple to know which guys in a community are on drugs !!!!!!!!!!”
5ish: “I can not believe I am writing this because it seems to be so obvious, but lack of evidence for something (especially your lack of anecdotal evidence) is not proof that something does not exist.”
Thank you 5ish! That was precisely my point. It is possible to know that something exists, but it is much more difficult (and often impossible) to know that it doesn’t exist. In this case, you would have to know every (or nearly every) person in the community in order to know that it’s NOT a problem.
akuperma -“Compared to medical conditions related to being overweight (probably affect most people by middle age).”
Your’re typical of the denial group!
While being overweight is a major problem – there are treatments.
The reason that the spill over from the Goyim is because they don’t have any good treatments, for anyone.
I’ve talked about this topic in the CR, many times before.@ff you wrote that in Baltimore it is not a major issue…so you obviously don’t know because it is a major issue in Baltimore. I will take back saying that its bigger than my or Lakewood because quite frankly that’s impossible for me to know and considering the amount of frum people in both those places compared to Baltimore odds are it’s bigger there…however to say that in Baltimore it is not a major issue either you are uuninformed or uneducated in the matter either way you can’t begin to talk on the subject matter.
I don’t know how big a problem drug abuse is in the frum population anywhere, and I have no idea how you’d quantify it. One thing that is quantifiable is the seriousness of the drug problem in the U.S. in general. Drug overdoses kill more people in the U.S. than any other accidental cause of death. Many more are killed by drug overdoses than traffic accidents.
If one Jew died from drug overdose, it’s a crisis. And there has definitely been way more than one, r”l.
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