Dvar Torah “The fisher King”

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  • #2187610
    Zetruth
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    Chavua tov, so there this sipur about an ill king who is strugling with infertility, other health issues and economic issues, the world has no meaning anymore until he finds his holy grail, some refer that one to a keli others to a shiddur who will cure his incurable wounds. Can we find his shiddur to cure him please? Renowned for his gallantry and purity as the most perfect of all knights, in the sippur it’s the knight Galad who finds his shiddur or the keli…

    #2187766
    commonsaychel
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    Try to post while sober, so at least we can make out the point of what you are trying to day.

    #2187810
    Zetruth
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    Common sahel, it’s time to wake up, there is something called the Vatican, an organization which the power has been underestimated. Not that I’m interested in their insane ideologies but we need to be aware of what decision is being taken and for what “religious” purpose. Some people in politics much more involved with them and the EU parlament are pointing at this thing, and for a reason. I know the maltese order has a lot of power, they recently reformed their constitution, if you look at it, you see some shocking details such as “noble blood” allowed to take some positions and the not so noble blood appointed for other labors…

    #2188223
    Yserbius123
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    “The Fisher King” is a tale from various versions of the King Arthur stories. It’s a Christian parable where the titular king represents Yoshke and the knight Percival represents people following him.

    #2188251
    Zetruth
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    @Yserbius I know that but how come no one is talking about the biggest bank in the world : I.O.R, how come the maltese order is able to pass any law they want without going under any media coverage? Why so discret, do they have anything to hide?

    #2188295
    Yserbius123
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    @Zetruth Out of curiosity, the places where you get your information from, how often do they mention the Rothschilds and Globalists?

    #2188658
    Zetruth
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    YSERBIUS : I’m talking here about the Vatican, a place where nazis were stocking all the items looted from Jews and that are still there. How on earth is this possible? Why no one had asked the Vatican to return those valuables??! Try to stay relevant, please.

    #2188680
    Yserbius123
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    @Zetruth Your have been using several terms and proper nouns that are very popular among certain forums and communities. I want to be sure before I engage with you further. So let me ask again, the place where you get your news, do they talk about the Rothschilds and Globalists?

    #2188701
    Avram in MD
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    Zetruth,

    “Chavua tov, so there this sipur about an ill king who is strugling with infertility, other health issues and economic issues, the world has no meaning anymore until he finds his holy grail”

    This is not a d’var Torah at all, and it is not a Jewish story. Are you Jewish?

    #2188725
    Zetruth
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    @Avram Md, I’m Jewish! Are you MD? It doesn’t seem like you got my point either. While so many people are studying complex torah lessons, they seem to be out of touch with what is happening in the real world. Not that I’m not saying there is anything wrong with that, far from it, in a time like today, we must be more involved in the society, wether it’s a ‘Jewish’ subject or not, am I entitled to have an opinion here?!

    @Yserbius
    I look into several medias all over the world, and several posts from different people, are you mentioning Rotschild and the Globalists implying that I get my sources from an antisemitic/ leftist media? I never researched what Rotchild does or doesn’t. It’s a well known family of bankers, very often pointed at the scapegoat, but beside that I won’t be able to tell you more about them. Regarding the “globalists” you will have to develop, it’s seems quite vague to me!
    To demonstrate such a narrow state of mind shouldn’t be associated with judaism, I feel sorry for both of you.

    #2188726
    Zetruth
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    @yserbius It will be useful to precise what are those communities or forums you were referring to? “I need to know where you are getting those info from, for me to engage further with you” Did anyone force you to engage with anybody? What a childish thing to say!

    #2188735
    Zetruth
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    And apparently I’m not the only seeing this issue and for once I agree with AAQ when he says “you seem to see the world only as they relate to Jews. This seems to contradict r Miller quote above: if you choose to be friends with reshoyim if they don’t hurt us personally, you may hvsh invite them to hurt us and only then learn the lesson. Abraham Heschel, while still in Nazi Germany, wrote a “historical” discussion that Sephardim were kicked out of Spain for a reason. Otherwise, they’d join Spaniards in their brutality in America’s – and it is better to be a victim than a perpetrator, sending a message to the German Jews who were upset that Nazis weren’t letting them be patriotic Germans

    #2188737
    Avram in MD
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    Zetruth,

    “Are you MD?”

    No, I’m a person, not one of the 50 states in the Union.

    “While so many people are studying complex torah lessons, they seem to be out of touch with what is happening in the real world.”

    You have it backwards. The Torah is our guide to the “real world.” What you call the “real world” I call the olam hasheker.

    “am I entitled to have an opinion here?!”

    I never said you didn’t.

    #2188758
    Zetruth
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    @Avram md ” You have it backwards. The Torah is our guide to the “real world.” What you call the “real world” I call the olam hasheker.” :
    – Olam hasheker for sure, but still the torah says one who study and doesn’t put this in practice, its considered vain..

    #2188763
    Avram in MD
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    Zetruth,

    “but still the torah says one who study and doesn’t put this in practice, its considered vain..”

    “Put this in practice” refers to proper performance of the mitzvos learned. Can you tell me where in the Torah your “sipur” about the holy grail can be found? And can you cogently explain its relevance, and what you expect us to “do” in response to it?

    #2188796
    Zetruth
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    @Avram in MD: I never said that sippur came from the torah, however anything can be found in the torah. Please delete this topic as it doesn’t seem to be the right plateform for it.

    #2190741
    Zetruth
    Participant

    Now, each person must say: “The entire world was created only for my sake” (Sanhedrin 37a). Consequently, because the world was created for my sake, I must constantly look into and consider ways of making the world better; to provide what is missing in the world and pray on its behalf.

    #2190743
    Zetruth
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    {“The verdict is decreed by the destroying angels, and the request is through the maamar of the holy ones” (Daniel 4:14).} And in the matter of prayer, there are two approaches. Before the decree has been issued we follow the regular order of prayer and there is no need to veil the prayers. But after the decree has been issued our prayers have to be disguised <within stories>, so that the <accusing angels> standing to the left do not understand and protest. As is written, “The verdict is decreed by the destroying angels”—i.e., when it is after the decree has been issued—then, “the request is through the maamar of the holy ones”—then the tzaddikim disguise their requests in a maamar.

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