August 12, 2013 4:51 am at 4:51 am #610333LikudMember
Do e-cigarettes that have a flavor, whether menthol, tobacco, cherry or other, require a hekhsher to smoke?
[Note: They are non-tobacco and it isn’t actually smoke but rather water vapor.]
Are e-cigarettes considered any differently, insofar as kasruth is concerned, than flavored real cigarettes (tobacco)?
By the way, does anyone have experience whether e-cigarettes are effective in helping break a cigarette smoking habit?August 12, 2013 10:48 am at 10:48 am #970700yitayningwutParticipant
Google and you will find a blog post I wrote about this.August 12, 2013 11:17 am at 11:17 am #970701ED IT ORParticipant
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NO NO NO NO NOAugust 12, 2013 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm #970702notsuchalamdan16Participant
i don’t know if the juice requires a hechsher or not but i do know that all the parts to make your own flavor are avail with a hechsher except the nicotine and menthol crystals. as far as effectiveness, in my experience using it and seeing my friends use it, its a mental commitment that you are no longer smoking cigarettes and even with that commitment the second you don’t have it like on holidays and passover most guys run straight back to the real thing. its good because when u use it ur not actually smoking but bad because you use it much more increasing you nicotine intake and is not really effective in helping one quitAugust 12, 2013 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm #970703BoruchSchwartzParticipant
E-cigarettes?August 12, 2013 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #970704Chochom-ibberParticipant
Just smoke the regular stuff. If you wanna stop, then just stop.August 12, 2013 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm #970705LevAryehMember
You know what’s way better than an E-cigarette? A cigarette.
There’s nothing like a good cigarette … on a bad date.August 12, 2013 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #970706August 13, 2013 3:09 am at 3:09 am #970707LikudMember
yitayningwut: I found your post. Thanks for that. A couple of questions. What do attribute the cRc taking their position to? Is the question different between flavored ecigs and unflavored ecigs? Is the question different between flavored (i.e. menthol) tobacco cigarettes and flavored ecigs?August 14, 2013 1:42 am at 1:42 am #970708yitayningwutParticipant
The cRc is probably being machmir because they did not consider or do not agree with my point of the juice not being ???? ??????.
Also, I am less reluctant to rely on somewhat of a creative kula since – a) I follow a school of thought that holds the “kashrus sensitive ingredients” they are talking about are kosher anyway; and what is perhaps more relevant – b) at the end of the day, being concerned about Tosafos’s opinion is only a chumra; it is not the ikkar hadin.
It would seem from the cRc’s alert that they would have an issue with all types of e-cigarettes. Regular cigarettes are different, a) because “kosher sensitive ingredients” are much more rare; and b) because I’ve heard people ascribe to a line of reasoning that says that smoke from a non-kosher item is permitted to ingest even if vapor isn’t. I mentioned the basis for this in footnote 9 in the blog post.
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