April 28, 2023 1:12 pm at 1:12 pm #2185128funneeParticipant
Hey random question for someone coming to Flatbush today- anyone know if there is an early mincha today (around 7) near ocean avenue and avenue O vicinity? Thank you!April 28, 2023 2:37 pm at 2:37 pm #2185152WolfishMusingsParticipant
Sha’arei Shalom (Ave P and Madison — not too far away) has a Mincha minyan at 7:00 pm.
The WolfApril 28, 2023 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm #2185162DaMosheParticipant
There’s a big issue with the 7:00 early Shabbos minyanim. If you’re going to daven Kabbalas Shabbos before shkiah, you need to daven Mincha before plag. Plag today in Brooklyn is 6:22, so Mincha starting at 6:10 or so should work.April 28, 2023 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #2185177mentsch1Participant
We are all familiar with the mishna brura on the subject
Yet many are not makpid including some very chashuv kehilosApril 28, 2023 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #2185202Yabia OmerParticipant
You don’t HAVE to daven before shkiyah. There’s on what to rely.May 1, 2023 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm #2185851Are RosterParticipant
“There’s a big issue with the 7:00 early Shabbos minyanim. If you’re going to daven Kabbalas Shabbos before shkiah, you need to daven Mincha before plag. Plag today in Brooklyn is 6:22, so Mincha starting at 6:10 or so should work.”
Actually davening at 7:00 is much better than davening at 6:10. The reason is that by davening at 7:00, you are davening mincha before the Magen Avraham’s plag and maariv after the magen avraham’s plag, so there’s no issue of a tarti disasri. If you daven at 6:10, it means that you are davening Maariv before the Magen Avraham’s plag. The Mishna Berurah isn’t machria which plag is lihalacha. As such, by davening Maariv before the Magen Avraham’s plag you are making tens of (safek) brachos livatala. It is better not to daven at all than to daven Maariv before the Magen Avraham’s plag, unless you are a Granik.May 1, 2023 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #2185903mentsch1Participant
This litvak got a laugh from your answerMay 1, 2023 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm #2185917
Magen Avraham plag is a misnomer.May 1, 2023 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #2185922
And on Erev Shabbos we are not chosesh for tarti dsasri.May 1, 2023 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #2185942DaMosheParticipant
N0mesorah, the Mishnah Berurah disagrees with you, and says we do worry about tarti d’sasri.
וי”א דבצבור יש להקל להתפלל מעריב מבע”י אף אם התפלל מנחה אחר פלג המנחה ונ”ל שאין לסמוך על זה רק כשהוא מתפלל מעריב עכ”פ בבין השמשות ובשעת הדחקMay 1, 2023 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #2185961
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