December 1, 2018 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #1634901
The villages, towns and county basically make it impossible to open a legal school in East Ramapo (and the existing ones are bursting at the seams) so our institutions spend a fortune on lawyers’ and architects’ fees, trying to get approvals. All of this drags on for years while our kids are in sub-optimal settings.
A few years ago there was an influx of children from Haiti and East Ramapo simply absorbed them. Any child in the district gets to go to school. That’s a good thing – we want an educated populace – and it should extend to ALL children. The public schools don’t have room for 25,000 non-pubic school students. Where are our kids supposed to go?December 1, 2018 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm #1634997divreiyosselParticipant
they should buy bldgs in orangetown far away it will be cheaper in the long runDecember 2, 2018 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #1635312
You think Orangetown wants us?! Buying a building is relatively easy; getting permission to operate a school is much harder.December 2, 2018 4:23 pm at 4:23 pm #1635373JosephParticipant
RLUIPADecember 2, 2018 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #1635500Yserbius123Participant
What angers me about East Ramapo is the frum response to everything. Unfortunately, we spent decades snubbing zoning laws, making living there uncomfortable for anyone who isn’t Yeshivish or Chassidish, fighting tooth and nail refusing compromise to make sure things go “our way” 100% even if it’s to the detriment of others, pretending that PR is a thing for goyim (because they’re all anti-Semites anyway, right?), ignoring basic city planning and turning entire areas into a nightmare snarl of traffic, and doing pretty much nothing to endear ourselves to the neighbors.
Then, the frum oilom expands outwards towards Chestnut Ridge and Tallman and everyone is so shocked that we are unwelcome.December 2, 2018 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #1635532nishtdayngesheftParticipant
Rasha in the past weeks parsha said Halacha he biyadua she’eisav sonei l’Yaakov.
If someone feels that the sinah does not apply to him, there may be from his lack of adherence to Halacha.December 3, 2018 12:00 am at 12:00 am #1635572Yserbius123Participant
If the only reason you can give for the hate is Eisav soneh es Yaakov, why in frum places like Five Towns, Cleveland, and LA do you not have the opposition to frumkeit that Ramapo has?
In a way, you are right. Eisav hates us and always will. We are in Galus and Hashem sends us constant reminders of that. But some of us choose to ignore the reminders, pretend that we rule the world, and give Eisav more reason to hate us. We should always remember our place in this world. The goyim rule over us until Moshiach comes. When we fight that idea, like what Ramapo Yidden have been doing, they just grow stronger, as evidenced by Mawah, Airmont, and Pomona.December 3, 2018 10:13 am at 10:13 am #1635727
I think there’s a connection between the “neutral” rules that just so happen to try keeping the Jews out and the extensive, unrestrained overbuilding. Communities naturally change. When the authorities in charge refuse to engage with constituents, people resort to self-help. No, it’s not a multi family house, my mother is moving in. And my sister. And some cousins. So instead of anything remotely resembling a plan, you get these monstrosities and uncontrolled growth. I’ve lived in Monsey most of my life and I’m disgusted but not shocked. Government isn’t responsive to the community as a whole – it’s responsive to whoever gives the best hand$hake. I can’t really blame people for taking advantage of the system because there hasn’t been a good alternative.
Of course Nanuet doesn’t want to turn into another Route 306 and that’s why Rabbi Fink said we’re not moving in – we don’t want to threaten your way of life. That said, the more resistance there is, the more likely this will turn into a nasty, expensive lawsuit that doesn’t benefit anybody. But what are we supposed to do? Drop dead? No thanks!December 3, 2018 10:42 am at 10:42 am #1635745Takes2-2tangoParticipant
You Reap What You SowDecember 3, 2018 10:42 am at 10:42 am #1635750apushatayidParticipant
Move to E’Y.
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