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June 24, 2011 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #597619MiddlePathParticipant
It has been proven that learning how to play a musical instrument can enhance one’s intellect, creativity, and even math skills. Also, listening to certain types of music (mostly Classical, but some others as well) stimulates the brain to hold more information for longer periods of time, which results in superior short-term, and sometimes long-term, memory. Because of all this, I think it is important for schools, not only of older children, but even from the ages of 5 and 6, to provide some sort of music class, be it learning an instrument, music theory, or just listening to music and telling the students to draw a picture of what they think the music is conveying. I think it should be part of the regular curriculum. I feel it is very beneficial, and will help them when they are adults much more so than some other classes that are currently part of the accepted curriculum.
I know that some schools already have such classes and programs. I think that every school should.
June 24, 2011 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #781340MiddlePathParticipantCleverjewishpun, I understand what you are saying. I just wish people were a little more open minded about things that can actually be beneficial to us.
About new gear, I just changed my strings on my Ibanez RG. I’m using Ernie Ball strings, I love them. That’s about it..I would love to get a new recording mic, but I still am undecided on how much I would want to spend. What about you?
June 24, 2011 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #781341zahavasdadParticipantThe bigger point should be sometimes things become jaded and entrenched.
Not every kid can or should learn the same way, sometimes other methods are needed.
Perhaps there are kids who cannot be a learner, but can play an instrument why should this skill be lost
June 24, 2011 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #781343deiyezoogerMemberI once asked a teacher why the school system expects strugling kids to kill themselves over advanced math skills they will never use in real life. (they will most probebly not even remember it a week after their test, but that is irelevent as long they have a good mark on their report card…) So the answer was that math sharpens the brain and teaches the kid structure and to follow the rules. Well if thats the case whith math its definitly so whith music. And those kids who are not good whith numbers are usealy creative and talanted and music and art would be the best thing for them, but it wont put the school in the good light they are trying to portray themselves.
June 24, 2011 10:34 pm at 10:34 pm #781344MiddlePathParticipantNice choice on the bass strings. I have a quick question: I recently recorded an original composition, and had the bass line recorded by itself, but it came out very fuzzy sounding. I tried fixing it by turning up the treble, but that didn’t work. Would you know how to get rid of it?
June 26, 2011 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #781345cleverjewishpunMember@Middlepath, yeah they sound really bright and punchy
regarding your question, do you get the fuzz when you just play through a regular amplifer or is it there only on the recording?
I’m not all that up on recording techniques but what I could tell you is to check out a forum called talkbass they should be able to be very very helpful
June 26, 2011 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #781346MiddlePathParticipantI get the fuzzy sound only on the recording. When played through an amp, it sounds fine. I’ll check out talkbass. Thanks.
June 27, 2011 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #781347cleverjewishpunMember@Middlepath, did you get the answer you were looking for?
June 27, 2011 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm #781348MiddlePathParticipantI actually discovered the problem on my own; the fuzzy sound was due to the internal recording mic being on while I was recording the bass line, so it picked a steady hum from the room I was in. Nothing to do with the bass at all. All I need to do is record it again with the mic off. Thanks for your concern, and there is really a lot of great stuff on the forum you mentioned. Thanks!
June 27, 2011 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #781349cleverjewishpunMemberI’m glad you figured it out!
It’s amazing how small the world is, I went to see a group play Sat night and their bass player is one of the top rated commentors on the talkbass forums!
June 27, 2011 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm #781350MiddlePathParticipantWow, that’s awesome! Funny thing..A few months ago, I was in a certain Shul for Friday night davening, and a friend introduced me to some guy who apparently was the original guitarist for Anthrax! He became religious and quit the band after a few months.
June 28, 2011 12:20 am at 12:20 am #781351cleverjewishpunMemberDid you get a name? Wikipedia says one of the band members converted to messianic judaisim but that aint exactly “frumkeit”
June 28, 2011 4:10 am at 4:10 am #781352MiddlePathParticipantNo, I didn’t get a name..it could be he isn’t really considered a full “member” of the band since it for such a short period of time. But apparently, he helped compose a few of the songs on their first album.
June 28, 2011 4:59 am at 4:59 am #781353haifagirlParticipantI didn’t see the article, but it could also be that whoever wrote it doesn’t know the difference between messianic Judaism and frumkeit.
June 28, 2011 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #781354MiddlePathParticipanthaifagirl, that is a good point.
But getting back to the original point of this thread, I really think we should implement such a program in our schools. It doesn’t have to take away from Limudei Kodesh classes. It can be an hour or two a week in place of some general studies class. I think it would go a long way.
June 28, 2011 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #781355RedNails19Participanti very much agree with the concept of education with/ through music. It has been proven to increase learning/memory ability and helping kids acheive/grow better in school. Even shows signs of BETTER BEHAVIOR!!
Go for it!!!
June 28, 2011 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #781356MiddlePathParticipantRedNails, I’m glad you agree! Thank you for pointing out how it helps with behavior as well, I forgot to write that. It amazes me how something so beneficial can be so easily ignored.. We must do something about it.
June 28, 2011 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #781359bombmaniacParticipantnot everyone is capable of understanding music. for example…i can listen to some music (classical or whatever) and just be overloaded why the great amounts of information…whereas my friends just dont get any of it…some peopel just dont understand the tone of the music…subtle differences, nuances…yeah im done.
June 28, 2011 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #781360MiddlePathParticipantbombmaniac, even one who doesn’t understand music fully can still benefit from listening to it. It helps, as I posted earlier, with memory, intellect, creativity, and as RedNails kindly pointed out, behavior. All this is true for all people, musically inclined or not. Obviously, one who is musically gifted will gain more, but everyone gains something substantial, even without realizing it. I wrote a paper for college on Music Psychology, so I am very into this topic. I think there is much to gain.
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